Gephardt: Credit card dispute complicates ticket refund for Cher fan

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SALT LAKE CITY – The pandemic canceled or postponed concerts across the country. While many fans have received refunds, others are still trying to get their money back.

Whenever we're in a dispute with a vendor, retailer, or in this case, a ticket seller, our credit cards come with a powerful tool — the chargeback. It can get our money back when there's trouble, but it can also give us a little more trouble.

When Lee Quach learned that Cher, one of his all-time favorite performers, was coming to Salt Lake City, he 'got tickets, babe.'

Quach found two Cher tickets available on third-party seller Vivid Seats for $744.80.

When the concert was postponed due to COVID-19, Quach said he asked Vivid Seats for a refund.

"I asked for my money back and they told me the concert isn't canceled, so you can't get a refund," Quach said.

Because the concert was merely postponed — no refund.

Quach contacted his credit card company, Discover, to dispute the charges. Discover sided with the ticket vendor writing to Quach, "we consider the transaction valid."


I asked for my money back and they told me the concert isn't canceled, so you can't get a refund.

–Lee Quach


Quach was out of luck until a few months later when the show was officially canceled.

Even then, Quach found himself stuck in the middle. Vivid Seats said they can't give him his money because he's engaged in a dispute with Discover and Discover told Quach the dispute is closed.

"I think maybe I made a mistake," Quach said. "I want to know, where is my money?"

Worried he may never get his money back for the canceled show, Quach decided it was time to call the KSL Investigators.

KSL-TV reached out to both Discover and Vivid Seats on Quach's behalf asking if someone could take another look at the situation. Vivid Seats responded with some good news for Quach: the very next day, Vivid Seats sent him a refund.

Discover did not respond to the email.

Credit card expert Ted Rossman talks to KSL TV Monday, Jan. 11, 2021.
Credit card expert Ted Rossman talks to KSL TV Monday, Jan. 11, 2021. (Photo: KSL TV)

I took Quach's situation to credit card expert Ted Rossman who said that credit card disputes can be a great tool when you're ripped off, but they can also be tricky, especially when it comes down to something like the fine print of a concert ticket.

"There's a lot of nuances with these ticketing companies," Rossman said. "This is really a gray area. My understanding is that a lot of it has to do with the venue or the team or the concert promoter, or really whoever's putting on that event."

Rossman's advice: don't ever start with a credit card dispute. Try to work it out with the merchant first — which is, of course, what Quach did.

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Matt Gephardt, KSLMatt Gephardt
You might say that Matt Gephardt was born into journalism. On the day he arrived at the Indiana hospital, his father, a reporter, had to quickly rush away after the delivery in order to front a news report. Matt’s television debut came a few years later when, as a toddler, he was used by an Indianapolis reporter to demonstrate how prescription drugs can be mistaken for candy. Matt’s “professional” career in the business began when he was 17 years old, attending high school in Los Angeles, and he landed a summer-job as a teleprompter operator in the Salt Lake City market. He moved to Utah, enrolled at the University of Utah, and never looked back. In the more than 20 years since, Matt has worked virtually every newsroom job: production crew, video editing, video photography, producing, executive producing. In 2010, Matt made the jump in front of the camera as an investigative “watchdog” reporter. Matt’s reporting has not only earned him several journalism awards, it has also led to law and policy changes at local, state and federal levels. When not investigating on behalf of Utah consumers, Matt enjoys “urban hiking” with his wife and three children – setting out on foot towards Sugarhouse or Downtown hoping to run into a friendly group of people gathered at a park, a festival or a new store or restaurant to try out. Matt is absolutely thrilled to be working at KSL where the commitment to ethical journalism, fairness and community is in lockstep with his own ideals.

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