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Voices of Reason

Jasen Lee and Amy Donaldson are speaking out and speaking up about the issues facing our community. We are engaging in conversations that seek to help us understand our differing views and opinions on complex issues, and what possible common ground might guide us in our search for solutions.

Wednesday, May 23, 2018

  • How two teen athletes turn 'ugly' moment into forgiveness and understanding
    Recently, two high school baseball players got into an altercation when one teen used a racial epithet during the heat of a game toward a fellow competitor. That episode launched a firestorm of reaction from both players, the teams and from school administrators. While the confrontation was sparked by anger, the eventual outcome was the result of two young men showing how contrition and forgiveness can lead to understanding and mutual respect. On this episode of the Voices of Reason podcast, Amy Donaldson and Jasen Lee are joined by Brighton (UT) High School pitcher Brennan Holligan, 16, and Jordan (UT) High School pitcher Gage Edwards, 18, along with Brighton head baseball coach Andy Concepcion and Jordan assistant baseball coach LaVon Edwards. We discuss the situation that transpired on

Tuesday, May 22, 2018

  • The Politics of the New U.S. Embassy in the Holy Land
    On this episode of the Voices of Reason podcast, Amy Donaldson and Jasen Lee talk about the impact of relocating the U.S. Embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. While supporters lauded the move as recognition of the city's historic importance to the Jewish majority, critics claimed it would become an impediment to brokering a possible peace agreement with the Palestinian minority. Joining the discussion are University of Utah law professor Amos Guiora, who is an Israeli citizen and also the author Crime of Complicity, A Bystander in the Holocaust, along with Ethan Millard, cohost of the Nightside Project on KSLNewsradio.com. Together we take a in-depth look into the consequences — intended and unintended — this relocation may have on the entire Middle East region of the globe.

Wednesday, May 16, 2018

  • Dark money in politics
    On this episode of the Voices of Reason podcast, Amy Donaldson and Jasen Lee discuss the pros and cons of money in politics — particularly since the landmark Citizens United decision by the U.S. Supreme Court that allowed unlimited, anonymous contributions from corporations and Super Political Action Committees. Joining us are Utah State Sen. Todd Weiler R-Bountiful and Utah State Auditor John Dougall who offer differing points of view on the controversial issue.

Wednesday, May 9, 2018

  • Discussing the issue of domestic violence with Attorney Steve Burton
    On this episode of the Voices of Reason podcast, Amy Donaldson and Jasen Lee talk about the issue of domestic violence with defense attorney Steve Burton with Salt Lake City-based Intermountain Legal. We discuss the complexities of domestic violence cases and how they are not always what they may seem.

Thursday, May 3, 2018

  • The role comedy plays in politics with Jay Whittaker
    On this episode of the Voices of Reason podcast, Amy Donaldson and Jasen Lee discuss the role comedy plays in discussing politics in America. From the annual White House Correspondents Dinner to the various night time talks shows, comedy is weaved into the fabric of the nation's consume political discourse. While it may sometimes make people uncomfortable, it's become an important component to how we discuss important political issues today. Join us as we take a deep and humorous dive into the world of political comedy.

Wednesday, April 25, 2018

Wednesday, April 18, 2018

  • The real faces of the American DREAM
    On this episode of the Voices of Reason podcast, Amy Donaldson and Jasen Lee talk to two University of Utah students are were brought to the United States by their parents as small children and have lived their lives in the shadows, yet in plain sight. Paco and Miguel tell their compelling stories of what it's like to live in a country that tacitly acknowledges their families' existence, but doesn't see them as people deserving of citizenship and the rights that come with it.

Wednesday, April 11, 2018

  • Tackling the DACA immigration issue with attorney Carlos Navarro
    On this episode of the Voices of Reason podcast, Amy Donaldson and Jasen Lee revisit the immigration issue in the wake of President Donald Trump's edict to end the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrival (DACA) program. Joining us is Utah immigration lawyer Carlos Navarro with the Salt Lake City law firm of Stowell, Crayk and Bown. He offers insights on the matter and we discuss where the immigration debate may head in the coming months.

Wednesday, April 4, 2018

  • VOR Community Conversation School Safety - Pt. 2
    ON this episode of the Voices of Reason podcast. Jasen Lee and Amy Donaldson continue their discussion on school safety in front a live studio audience at KSL Broadcast House in downtown Salt Lake City. On part two, we’re joined by Greg Hughes, Speaker of the Utah House of Representatives, whose served as a policymaker for 16 years; Kierstin Draper, principal of Canyon View Elementary School, who has experience with school violence in Texas and is a veteran administrator; and Salt Lake County Sheriff Rosie Rivera, who's been in law enforcement for 25 years. In this discussion, we talk about possible policy and law enforcement solutions.  

Monday, April 2, 2018

  • VOR Community Conversation: School Safety - Pt. 1
    On this episode of the Voices of Reason podcast, Amy Donaldson and Jasen Lee host the inaugural VOR Community Conversation in front of a live studio audience at KSL Broadcast House in downtown Salt Lake City on the topic of safety in schools. The discussion will be two parts. In the first episode, we’re joined by Kathy Howa, a teacher and at Rowland Hall — a private school in Salt Lake City; Elizabeth Love, a senior at West High School in Salt Lake who is an organizer for the March for Our Lives SLC. She’s also a freelance writer who has worked as a research intern for the Gun Violence Prevention Center of Utah for two years; our third guest is Chris Gebhardt, who has worked in law enforcement for more than 25 years, including as a SWAT officer for Salt Lake County as well as a st

Thursday, March 22, 2018

  • How employers and employees benefit from on-site mental health services
    On this episode of the Voices of Reason podcast, Amy Donaldson and guest host Ethan Millard (Nightside Project) talk about the impact of providing mental health services to employees as part of on-site employer healthcare. Joining the discussion are Dr. Donna Milavetz, founder of OnSite Healthcare, a Utah company that operates workplace medical clinics providing “primary care at work” for employers in Utah and Arizona; Kevin Ricklefs, ‎Senior Vice President of Talent Management at CHG Healthcare — a healthcare staffing firm in Midvale, Utah; and Maggie Franz, an employee at CHG Healthcare.    

Friday, March 16, 2018

  • What Can Be Done To Make Schools Safer?
    On this episode of the Voices of Reason podcast, Amy Donaldson and Jasen Lee consider the issue of school safety in the wake of the latest school shooting in Parkland, Florida. Joining the discussion are former police officer Mike Roe and high school teacher Brian Preece. They examine the notion of arming teachers and developing safety standards such as active shooter drills, among others. As nearly one million students participated in a National Walkout of School Day to demonstrate for improved guns laws, we ask what are some possible concrete solutions to potentially make schools safer and how can we reduce the danger that currently exists in schools across the country?

Wednesday, March 14, 2018

  • Examining the system of monetary bail in criminal justice
    On this episode of the Voices of Reason podcast, Amy Donaldson and Jasen Lee discuss the structure of the pre-trial supervision system, otherwise known as bail and how the current model impacts people arrested and charged with criminal offenses. They talk with Utah Third District Court Judge Todd Shaunessy and renown Utah criminal defense attorney and former prosecutor Greg Skordas discussing new reforms under consideration to help address inherent flaws in the system and how it can be improved to enhance fairness.

Wednesday, March 7, 2018

  • The Life Saving Gift of Organ Donation
    On this episode of the Voices of Reason podcast, Jasen Lee discusses the issue of organ donation with Alex McDonald of Intermountain Donor Services, heart transplant recipient Claire Larsen, and donor parent Kim Kay. They talk about the circumstances surrounding organ donation and the impact it has on the lives of those individuals and families involved, both recipients and donors.  

Wednesday, February 28, 2018

  • Corruption in Amateur Sports
    On this episode of the Voices of Reason podcast, Amy Donaldson and Jasen Lee discuss the pervasiveness of institutional corruption in amateur sports in America — specifically within the Olympics and big-time college competition. They are joined by Deseret News Utah Jazz beat writer Eric Woodyard. They take a deep dive into the reasons behind why organizations like the U.S. Olympic Committee (USOC**) and National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA), along with television networks make billions of dollars while precluding the athletes from accepting so much as a meal. They also offer potential solutions to the issue of the systematic exploitation of these athletes who perform on the biggest world and national stages and receive no financial benefit despite generating billions in revenu