Radio  /  Podcasts  / 

Voices of Reason

Jasen Lee and Amy Donaldson are speaking out and speaking up about the issues facing our community. We are engaging in conversations that seek to help us understand our differing views and opinions on complex issues, and what possible common ground might guide us in our search for solutions.

Wednesday, February 14, 2018

  • Interview with Cindy Workman with Koins for Kenya
    On this episode of the Voices of Reason podcast, Jasen Lee speaks with retired Utah school teacher Cindy Workman, who took a 'trip of a lifetime' to do service work in Africa and turned into a lifelong passion to help kids pursue their educational dreams — one desk at a time. #koinsforkenya

Wednesday, February 7, 2018

  • Interview with Pamela Mower with UT Dept. of workforces Services [Transcript]
    Jasen Lee: [00:00:15] Theme Music...Hello and welcome to the Voices of Reason podcast. I am Jasen Lee, along with my co-host, Amy Donaldson, and today we're going to be talking about issues facing people with disabilities specifically finding work, and joining us today is Pamela Mower. She is the employment specialist for the state of Utah Division of Services for the Deaf and Hard of Hearing and her interpreter, Jennifer Store, who you'll be hearing today. And I want to say first of all thank you very much for coming in and joining us today.  Pamela Through Jennifer: [00:00:45] Thank you for having us. Jasen Lee: [00:00:47] And so we've been talking a lot offline here, becoming a little more educated about the circumstances of people who are deaf and hard of hearing, and I was hoping Pam
  • Finding Jobs for People with Hearing Loss
    On this episode of the Voices of Reason podcast, Amy Donaldson and Jasen Lee speak with Pamela Mower, a statewide Employment Specialist at Sanderson Community Center of the Deaf and Hard of Hearing in Taylorsville, UT. Born deaf, she has learned to navigate a hearing world that often ignores people with hearing loss due to misunderstanding, misinformation and fear of the unknown. Join us as she offers enlightening insight into how people with hearing loss and deafness cope in a society that doesn't really comprehend how to accept them and the gifts they bring to the community or the workplace — where they struggle to find employers willing to give them a chance.  

Wednesday, January 31, 2018

  • Immigration with Utah Attorney Carlos Navarro
    On this episode of the Voices of Reason podcast, Jasen Lee and Amy Donaldson discuss immigration with Salt Lake City attorney Carlos Navarro. With Democrats and Republicans at odds in the nation's capital regarding how to devise a workable immigration plan to avoid another government shutdown, we chat about the various issues that need to be addressed to get the situation resolved. Hundreds of thousands individuals and their families are facing potential life-changing difficulties (including deportation) as politicians, including President Donald Trump, debate their fate on Capitol Hill.

Saturday, January 27, 2018

  • A Conversation with Utah Lieutenant Governor Spencer Cox - Part 2
    On this episode of the Voices of Reason podcast, Amy Donaldson and Jasen Lee sit down with Utah Lieutenant Governor Spencer Cox discussing the growing influence of 'dark money' in politics and his thoughts on bridging the increasing political divide in public discourse. Join us for an enlightening conversation with one of the state's smartest and down to earth political leaders.
  • A Conversation with Utah Lieutenant Governor Spencer Cox - Part 2
    On this episode of the Voices of Reason podcast, Amy Donaldson and Jasen Lee sit down with Utah Lieutenant Governor Spencer Cox discussing the growing influence of 'dark money' in politics and his thoughts on bridging the increasing political divide in public discourse. Join us for an enlightening conversation with one of the state's smartest and down to earth political leaders.
  • A Conversation with Utah Lt. Gov Spencer Cox - Part 1
    On this episode of the Voices of Reason podcast, Amy Donaldson and Jasen Lee sit down with Utah Lieutenant Governor Spencer Cox discussing the start of the 2018 state legislative session and issues of note for lawmakers this year. Join us for an enlightening conversation with one of the state's smartest and down to earth political leaders.

Wednesday, January 17, 2018

  • 'King in the Wilderness': a Sundance MLK preview
    On this episode of the Voices of Reason podcast, Jasen Lee and guest co-host Becky Bruce of KSL Newsradio interview Peabody Award-winner Trey Ellis and six-time Emmy winner Peter Kunhardt regarding their upcoming Sundance Film Festival documentary King in the Wilderness. The movie chronicles the final three years in the life of famed civil rights leader Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. The film reveals a side of Dr. King seldom seen before — a conflicted man who faced strong condemnation from both sides of the political spectrum after the passage of Voting Rights Act in 1965. He saw his principles of non-violence questioned by the Black Power movement and endured harsh criticism from then-U.S. President Lyndon Johnson, who considered his anti–Vietnam War speeches to be irresponsible. Dr. K

Thursday, January 11, 2018

  • Dissecting Three Billboards Outside of Ebbing, Missouri
    On this episode of the Voices of Reason podcast, Amy Donaldson and Jasen Lee delve into the obvious and not so apparent contexts of the critically-acclaimed film "Three Billboards Outside of Ebbing, Missouri." We discuss the many ways a single tragic event came to impact so many people in this fictional small midwestern town. We look at how grief manifests itself amongst all the relevant characters and how the movie serves as a corollary for life in so many tangible ways, in addition to other societal issues such as race, domestic abuse and suicide.

Wednesday, January 3, 2018

  • Political Resolutions for 2018
    On this episode of the Voices of Reason podcast, Jasen Lee and Amy Donaldson offer their resolutions for discussing politics in the New Year. With partisanship at an extremely high level, they resolve to listen more and learn to understand where people are coming from. Rather than spending time trying to convince others of your point of view, take some time to find out what they are thinking and why. It's the first step on the path to a less divided nation and a more inclusive dialogue going forward.  

Wednesday, December 20, 2017

  • Middle East politics
    On this episode of the Voices of Reason podcast, Amy Donaldson and Jasen Lee are talking Middle East politics with University of Utah law professor Amos Guiora. He teaches Criminal Procedure, International Law, Global Perspectives on Counterterrorism and Religion and Terrorism. He is also the author of the book, The Crime of Complicity, the Bystander in the Holocaust. Following President Donald Trump's declaration that the U.S. will recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, unrest and anxiety have risen in the Middle East. Prof. Guiora offers some explanation and thoughts on the situation speaking directly from Israel. We also discuss the possibility of changes to U.S. law statutes to potentially hold bystanders legally liable for failing to act when observing the commission of viole
  • VIDEO: Middle East politics, part 2
    On this episode of the Voices of Reason podcast, Amy Donaldson and Jasen Lee are talking Middle East politics with University of Utah law professor Amos Guiora. He teaches Criminal Procedure, International Law, Global Perspectives on Counterterrorism and Religion and Terrorism. He is also the author of the book, The Crime of Complicity, the Bystander in the Holocaust. Following President Donald Trump’s declaration that the U.S. will recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, unrest and anxiety have risen in the Middle East. Prof. Guiora offers some explanation and thoughts on the situation speaking directly from Israel. We also discuss the possibility of changes to U.S. law statutes to potentially hold bystanders legally liable for failing to act when observing the commission of vio
  • VIDEO: Middle East politics, part 1
    On this episode of the Voices of Reason podcast, Amy Donaldson and Jasen Lee are talking Middle East politics with University of Utah law professor Amos Guiora. He teaches Criminal Procedure, International Law, Global Perspectives on Counterterrorism and Religion and Terrorism. He is also author of the book, The Crime of Complicity, the Bystander in the Holocaust. Following President Donald Trump’s declaration that the U.S. will recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, unrest and anxiety have risen in the Middle East. Prof. Guiora offers some explanation and thoughts on the situation speaking directly from Israel. We also discuss the possibility of changes to U.S. law statutes to potentially hold bystanders legally liable for failing to act when observing the commission of violen

Tuesday, December 12, 2017

  • VIDEO: Waking Up White, Part 1
    VIDEO: On this episode of the Voices of Reason podcast, Jasen Lee and Amy Donaldson are joined by noted writer and racial justice educator Debby Irving, author of Waking Up White: And Finding Myself in the Story of Race. They discuss various issues surrounding growing up and experiencing life through a 'colorblind' lens and then realizing the stark differences of living life in America as black, brown or other minority people. Debby explains how a well-intentioned program like the G.I. Bill was developed to help returning military veterans gain access to education and homeownership, but in practice discriminated against minorities and created a wealth gap that exists generations later. She also talks about her own personal journey from well-meaning, yet uninformed person of (white) pr
  • VIDEO: Waking Up White, Part 2
    VIDEO: Jasen Lee and Amy Donaldson are joined by noted writer and racial justice educator Debby Irving, author of Waking Up White: And Finding Myself in the Story of Race. They discuss various issues surrounding growing up and experiencing life through a 'colorblind' lens and then realizing the stark differences of living life in America as black, brown or other minority people. Debby explains how a well-intentioned program like the G.I. Bill was developed to help returning military veterans gain access to education and homeownership but in practice discriminated against minorities and created a wealth gap that exists generations later. She also talks about her own personal journey from well-meaning, yet uninformed person of (white) privilege to the more self-aware, culturally sensiti