Hope Insurance covers this.....

That's what you get for living in Woods Cross.

Just terrible.

We got a few wars going on out there, folks standing up to the government corruption on the healthcare bill right now in Washinton D.C. but KSL covers a couple inconvienenced citizens with some cracked windows.


Oh boo hoo.

Felt it in Clearfield. I thought someone had crashed into our garage door. Everything is OK though.

Sure looks like a mess.

Time for a great big lawsuit. Someone is bound to get hurt or killed if stricter safety measures aren't implemented.

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I'm sure that the Refinery is responsible for all of the damaged homes. Hope they have adequate insurance/financial resources to pay for the damages.

I agree a big lawsuit is needed against the moron home developers that decided to build neighborhoods inside the 'safe zone'. Shame on them!

I live 12 miles to the north and my house rumbled.

it's funny, I've heard all these reports about the property damage but not once have i seen KSL say anything about the actual people inside the plant! any deaths??

Get your homeowners insurance to cover it for now, then get with your neighbors and file a class action lawsuit.

I do feel bad for people who have dammage or loss, but I am having a real hard time thinking anyone is to blame other than those who built or bought houses by a gasoline refinery. Seems like the cry babys who don't like the noise of the airport they built their house by.

SUE!!

SUE!!

There is money to be made and I am sure the lawyers are patrolling the gutter. . er . .neighborhoods trying to get folks to sign up.

People weren't hurt, but gosh darnit, there is dirt and a broken window here and there . . no. . well, over there something looks broke. . but my point is, people need to pay for this.

I have a feeling every home within a 20 mile radius that has some cracks in its stuccowindows will claim that explosion did it.

SUE SUE SUE and then pass the costs to the consumer so refined products end up costing more, and we all end up paying for the idiots that built their homes to close to an oil refinery!

For all of you guys shouting SUE! there are many other options to get taken care of.

You're right UnderJamz...like maybe report on the shooting at Ft. Hood that killed seven people and injured 12 more!

BOOOOOH-YAHHH!!

This is for UnderJamz, Hope the next explosion is in you're backyard,You ???Face!!!!

I work at silver eagle and I think I may have had something to do with this minor mishap.
I was drilling into an unmarked steel line when a lot of liquid and gas started running out, I wasn't sure exactly what to do so I sat down on the pipe and lit a cigarette to think and the next thing I know I am sitting in the parking lot...Sorry.

The people that live by the refinery should not complain. Who bought those homes? They did right? so who's fault is it for living that close to Silver eagle? look at all of the main points before you go saying lets sue Silver Eagle.

Why would anyone want to live the close to the refineries???? Why did these people move there???

It's beyond me.

"I do feel bad for people who have dammage or loss, but I am having a real hard time thinking anyone is to blame other than those who built or bought houses by a gasoline refinery. Seems like the cry babys who don't like the noise of the airport they built their house by."

This is the dumbest reasoning I've ever heard. Thats like saying if an Airplane crash landed on your house, you must have been too close to the airport.

I wonder if they aren't going to make to much of this, I'm betting they even try to pin the dust on that car on this. I have a dirty car too...

A.S. these homes in woods cross were built in a blast zone. The city knew it & so did the builders. The refinery is not at fault. They can not control what permits are given for home building. You comparing an airplane crashing into a house is not a valid comparison, since as far as I know, airports do not issue 'airplane crash zones' around airports.

Hummm... an explosion that damaged homes, breaking glass, knocking out windows... and was felt for miles and miles around and yet once again, a refinery 'accident' where none of the round the clock workers were injured or killed. I guess they all must have once again gotten the memo to vacate before this latest "accident". I wonder how much the insurance is for these things and how much Silver Eagle needed new equipment!

I live in Salt Lake and found a crack in my foundation, how do I contact the silver lake insurance adjusters? I'm pretty sure it wasn't there before the blast...

I agree with A.S. It is not reasonable to think that any business would pose a risk of death to it's neighbors. If there was that risk why did the city allow building permits? It was in fact an accident. Silver Eagle is liable not those who were affected.

My wife told me there was a leak under the kitchen sink. So I said well go fix it then. So she opened the cabinet doors got down on her knees and bent over. That's when I noticed a crack in my house.

Marge, we need to move.

I would like to reply to that comment?

If the price of the home is the only qualifier in buying it, then you get what pay for.
Pretty and new homes for sure. But the developers couldn't have given me a home that close to a refinery for FREE! I settled for what the same amount of money would buy me in Cottonwood Heights.
I'm glad that no one was hurt. Especially with all of that flying glass. It would have been much worse in the early evening with everyone home from work and school.

"why did these idiots build next to the refinery?" That's like saying if a car veers off the road and hits your house, you only have yourself to blame because you're the one who built/bought the house that was right next to the road! Sorry, we can't all live on the bench! But that doesn't mean we don't deserve a little consideration.

The refineries have been haveing a lot of safety issues the last few years. Fires, and explosions. It is thier responsibility to run safe operations that are near the highways and also housing. Remember, these are the same refining companies that had to be sued for a decade and forced to install pollution control equipment in the late 70's. They do not care about the population of SLC whatsoever.

I went out to take down the halloween lights and just saw cracks in my Stucco, and I live 45 miles away in Tooele. That was some shock wave I tell ya!

Were do I get those claim forms at?

Let the refinery pay to fix the homes of all the boobs that bought houses next to it. They will just jack up your gas price to get their money back.

when you buy your home, make sure you check the backyard for any refineries. Just a heads up. Alot of these nice neighborhoods are build in odd places these days.

All these houses are fairly new. Who is the knuckleheads at the zoning committee that thought building residential near a refinery was a good idea? Who in their right mind would buy a house next to a refinery. Hope they got a good price. The refinery has been there 60 years for crying out loud.

I wish that I could reply to some of these ridiculous comments. About the cry babies that built or bought homes by the refinery. I happen to be one of those cry baby idiots whose home is about 3 blocks from the home that was condemned. My home suffered minor damage compared to those closer.
Mine is not one of the newer homes so I did not build my house I bought my house. I have lived in my house for nine years. While I understand the risk of living near a refinery it is also expected that there will NOT be TWO reported incidents in less than 12 months.
Many commented on the board yesterday that there is more risk in driving a car than living next to a refinery. I agree with that comment. Now I drive to work 25 miles does this mean that I should quit my good job and find one closer that may not be in the same pay range because I am putting myself at risk by driving to work 25 miles each day? Me and the other drivers out on the road have a responsiblity to make safe decisions while on the road as do the refineries have a responsibility regardless of what surrounds them.
I don't necessarily agree that the refinery should be moved or shut down if they can make significant improvements to there safety to minimize the risk.

I am thankful that SE Refinery is taking responsibility of the damages caused to the residents affected.

When you post your comments on this board please be sensitive to those that are affected.

I walked outside and saw a crack in my driveway , I want to sue too! Oh , and also my car got some dirt on it and I need a new paint job , and also I felt the ground shake and it made me scuff my new shoes, I need new shoes now too ! I want to sue ! I need new stuff ! Any forms ?

Get ready for gas prices to go to $4+/gallon in order for the refinery to cover the costs of everyone claiming damage.

Boo Hoo!!!! I built my house 1 block from the west desert bombing range and I am upset because my house got hit by bomb shrapnel! WAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!

Chris M and A.S. If either one of you were living in the area you would both feel very different. Go find where else to put people down.

With that said these homes have been built to close to the refinery. But this would have happen to the there people or others...meaning the house were going to be built regardless of who bought them. There just needs to be more safety put in place. I live in this neighborhood too.

I too feel bad for the people that have been damaged but very happy that no injuries (miricle). The developer who built the houses in the blast zone should come forward, the person that sold the property to the developer, the real estate agents, woodscross city & silver eagle if it's found they broke safety rules should all participate in the remedy. My opinion is the houses in the blast zones should be purchased and removed.

I have contented with friends and aquaintances that building in Bountiful or Woodscross or any of that area is insane. Why you would want a bench home up there, spend hundreds of thousands of dollars, even millions of dollars for a home that has a view of what? The refineries? Oh, I almost forgot the lake somewhere out there.

You can spend the money to live there if you wish. I would never live there because of the refinery, and because of the fault line that runs through there. That place puzzles me why people build there, and scares me in the fact they do live there. But if that area attracts you, feel free to spend and move in. Just don't say you aren't warned by the signs of what is there already.

Building in that area for scenery is about as dumb as building in North Layton for the quiet (note that all the fighter jets fly over all hours of the day and night there). Again, if you can see it, do you really want to live by it? Not for my nor my family

Gosh, I build or buy a house that has been next to a refinery and it is everybody elses fault. Hello....the refinery has been there for 60 years. They will take responsibility, but for pete sakes look around you when purchasing a house. Here come the trolls.

Residents knew the plants were there before the neighborhoods were. The powers that be should've never let homes be built within a mile or two of any potentially dangerous plant like these.

I really don't understand the mindset of some people. Sure, better precaution should have been taken when building/buying the homes, but there are risks to living anywhere. I look forward to see the reactions of those of you criticizing these homeowners when your pretty east bench home is damaged due to an earthquake. Maybe you should have taken into consideration that you are moving into an area sitting on a fault line? And every person living in California must be an idiot because they always have earthquakes. And people in Florida for moving where they get hurricanes. Stop being so quick to judge people.

All you idiots who think people should not be living there. The area was settled before the refineries were there. Many homes in the area are older. Although most of the neighborhoods are relatively new, some of the closest homes were there first.

By your logic, the refinery should not have been placed there with homes nearby.

In addition, if you think you are safe because you are out of the blast zone, you are kidding yourself. Do you not realize the toxic cloud from the explosion effected the whole valley. What about all the commuters on I-15 or Frontrunner that are in the balst zone? Should they not drive past the refinery because it is there?

Think before you post.

I think the coty of Woods Cross should relocate every resident within a mile radius of the refineries. I think that Woods Cross city council members were wreckless and irresponsible to allow zoning for residential property so close to such dangerous property. The refineries were there long before the homes. This is another example of how money talks. I am sure if a company wanted to build a sex-offender halfway house next to a school and they had enough "lobby money", the property would be zoned. Methinks there needs to be some kind of auditing. This is not only a Woods Cross issue, every municipality is guilty of this "corruption".

What is sad is all the people so quick to screw over the refinery. This refinery was there long before most of these homes were built, especially the newer ones that received the most damage (everyone is in such a hurry to build, it's about quantity not quality). People who haven't taken care of their homes are now all of a sudden concerned with cracks and anything they can find to blame on the blast. There were homes that were obviously damaged and the refinery has always taken responsibility for damage due to these incidents. These people should be ashamed of themselves for lying and taking advantage of an ACCIDENT. Choosing to live close to a possible hazard is not anyone else's problem but their own.

kinda funny that owners are blaming the city for allowing building there? They where some least expensive new homes im sure at one time. How about the obvious problem homes in Sandy on widow maker?

Id live there if you want to sell a home for $30k

I have lived in Woods Cross my whole life and that's where both of my parents were raised. It is a great city, i have always felt safe here. I don't remember once in my childhood, until 2005 when there was a fire,that there was ever a problem with the refinery. The surrounding areas can't help it when it catches on fire, or worse, explodes! I appreitiate that S.E. refinery is handling it the manner they are. nobody needs to be sued, things just need to be taken care of responsibly.

i feel for those whose houses were damaged. luckily my house, a block away, wasn't damaged as severely. i am greatful that nobody was hurt.

I think people need to play a little nicer. This affected real people. If this was happening to you or your neighbors, would you be writing these horrible things such as "idiots" and "crybababies"? The people were well informed that there was a functioning refinery there, but there was no past record of troubles until the past 5 years. I don't see why some of you think we didn't know it was there or the effects it could have on us.

My parents built in WX 43 years ago, a block and a half east of the SE refinery and in those 43 years there have been small incidents, but nothing like the last 5 years. We built a new home in the neighborhood just east of the refinery 6 years ago knowing that this refinery is there and that to date, the safety record was pretty good. I am sure I can speak for most of the residents in our neighborhood when I say; we DON'T want the refinery to move away. They employee our friends and neighbors. They bring a good tax base to the city which in turn keeps my taxes down. What we DO want is for the refinery to rebuild, to be safe, clean, and productive. This refinery is close to 50 years old. It makes one wonder how old some of the pipeing is, and is that part of the problems we are seeing. Is there a lack of true refinery knowledge employeeed there - hands on smart vs book smart?

Woods Cross is a GREAT community and there is no reason to think it can't and shouldn't be a safe one.
For those of you who call us "Idiots" for building here, it is a place and way of life we have chosen. Things could be worse...we could live on the flood plains of the Mississippi, or we could live in tornado alley, or we could live in California with the threat of earth quakes or large brush fires that destroy hundreds of homes each year. You all need to get off your high horses, and walk a mile in another mans shoes before spouting off.

There are inherant risks of living anywhere on this rock. Pick a place you love, call it home and pray for your neighbors and families safety.

I live in the so called blast zone, about 8 houses from the homes that were condemned. Everyone being critical of us homeowners claiming we are "sue happy" should get their facts straight as NO law suits have been filed. Everyone in my community has more than cooperated with Silver Eagles insurance and filing their own claims the way they have asked us to. We of course knew the refinery was here when we bought our home, but we assumed it was safe if the city allowed this development to be zoned residential. Show a little decency when you post here and have some respect for our friends who are now homeless as their houses have been deemed inhabitable. And just for the record, we love this community and think we live among some of the finest people.

I am sure the refinery will take care of the people with real problems, and also the crybabies with cracks and whatnot, Personal responsibility plays a big roll here, to be honest,most if the fringe home owners are grasping at straws to take advantage of the situation. The lawyers will be licking all the gutters here looking to line their pockets. Politicians as well as home owners and most public employees know nothing of these things they will make their opinions look as good as they can but will only worsen out lives, things happen no one is guaranteed an upset free existence, whining to the news media (who will sound bite it to death) in the end won't do any thing but make it worse they don't know news from an empty post hole. what a refreshing thing it would be to deal honestly with the refinery.Not lawyers or public employees.

I have waited to respond on here and debated to say anything at all but a few comments on here are just wrong even if intended to be funny.

First off the comment on smoking and drilling into the line is ignornance at its best. This is not a funny situation.

Second, why are there no comments on why the city has allowed homes to be built so close to this refinery? In my mind the city is as more at fault than the developer. If the zoning change wasn't approved by the city the homes would never have been built.

Third, the refinery will pay for the damage to homes and thank God no one got hurt or killed, but I do not feel sorry for people who buy next to something that could have problems. This is like those people that buy next to the airport and complain about the noise or next to a golf course and complain about their house getting hit by a golf ball.

Next, I love the speculation, no one knows exactly what happened yet except there was a leak of hydrogen and diesel fuel. So far the heat source that was needed to finalize this has not even been found yet.


The only major issue I see is that everyone is okay. Homes can be replaced but people can't.

It's like the people that build these big homes by the freeway and then complaign about the road noise, or the people that build a home next to a dairy farm and want the farmer to move because it stinks so much! Come on people, you decided to build/buy there!

Kenny B,

Nice redunant post.

It is nothing like the people who build next to a freeway or farm. You expect noise when you build next to a freeway, not to have your house destroyed by the freeway blowing up. You expect the smell from a farm, not your house being destroyed by cows blowing up.

Your analogies are the stupidest I have seen yet. People who build next to a refinery expect the smell, noise, and pollution. They don't expect a legitment regulated business to blow up a couple times a year and damage homes.

If you built next to a bakery would you expect it catch fire and burn your house down? After all you would have known the bakery was there and had a oven.

Key words in this entire news report are:

THE CITY HAD A REPORT FROM THE DEVELOPERS ENGINEERING FIRM THAT SAID THIS LAND IS SAFE TO BUILD ON.

This corruption between developers and city's looking to unload land is one reason developers should be required to purchase at least a 30 or 40 year bond so if something like this happens the "Honorable Home Owner" is not "screwed" but gets their home fixed ASAP cause that bond is a legally binding contract.

We have so much development where i live commissioners are already talking about requiring such a bond to prevent another Promontory where many contractors got "screwed" out of "ALLOT" of money. Developers present the most fabulous idea ever it will better your community is usually the sales pitch "HOWEVER" once they have built and sold those homes off to a finance company they take the money and run just like a SCUM BAG who can not live up to a "legally binding contract". There needs to be responsibility put on the developer after a development is finished so crap like this does not happen. Another example of lousy development is four corners canyon. If those developers were required to fix anything or build a new home whose concrete was moving i guarantee you half those homes would not be there. Just my opinion but the trend continues cities in Utah screw the "Honorable Public" over once again. By the way where was the city's engineer on this one golfing at the expense of "Honorable Tax Payer Money On Honorable Tax Payer time"???

It is sad what has happened to people's homes, thank goodness no one was injured or killed. But I do believe that a majority of the responsibility lies on the developers and those who bought their homes from these developers. I would imagine the builders lied when asked about issues, and the bottom line is money.

I don't think it would be fair to sue the refinery though, as this was labeled a "blast zone". City, yes, developers, yes, and the residents should use their homeowners policies. We built our home with a big hill/small bluff behind our house. We know that a fire might get to our home, or that if the hill was dug into we could have mudslides, but we checked out these issues and felt satisfied that it was within our risk level. Our bluff is solid granite, and there are now homes between ours and the brush.

Also, we have earthquake insurance, which I hope to never have to use, but we have it. People need to check things out before they put themselves and their families at more risk than necessary. This is a lesson learned for many.

Just one comment to some individuals and their comments,do you believe in god,if so,please have some moral and caracter and stop,dang stop making fun of these poor people who bought home and had a garantees from those developers ,who needs to be sued badly for their malfunction and false reports of so called"safe zone".Refinery should not be placed in this close to SLC downtown area in first place.Who made plans for refinery in 2 miles from dowton SLC is likely Rocky and also this guy Woods Cross Mayor.I think he WC mayor should be caracter if he resignes immediately from position,because he failed on decision 100%,even plus he let developers to build that houses there.Again,you all who is laughing and making idiotic jokes on poor folks who just lost homes,because each of those homes is likely 500k if not more.How would feel if that happened to you,haaaaa!Refinery needs to be relocated asap and that should be job for governor to make them go out of there.Jail time for golden eagle managemnt and president and license away,because even that last explosion report has not been delivered to WC mayor,then this hapenned.Refineries in the middle of SLC ,almost downtown,thats insane decision for any mayor to make,even Rocky,enviromentalist Anderson.Becker please stop them in distroying SLC.

i never write on these boards but this is so sad.. i read comments from people not only about this situation but things that are happening to people every place there are some of you people that i feel sorry for the ignorence you go out of your why to put on these boards is sick.. and the person that said about sitting on the pipe and smoking wow...some day some will happen to you or a child in your family and if it is on ksl and someone like your self goes on there and post something as hateful and ignorent as what you and many other have posted has hateful as you and people like you are i will be the first one to attack anyone that post a hateful and cruel comment about your saddness ..wow people are we really this pathetic that we post things like this every time somrthing bad happens to another human being i feel sorry for peopl and im sorry for using the person that said the sitting and smoking comment but wow it scare me to know people are really like that..i am sorry.

go ahead im sure someone is just waiting to attack me for this comment and for my spelling what a sad thing to see..would you make fun of the kids born in third world countrys that didnt have a choice on who there parents were going to be wow i not only feel sorry for the ones that write these sad comments but for all of us this is are world these are the people that are ..our freinds and family..neigbores brothers ..sisters ..ya i feel sorry for all of us.. go ahead people let me have it ..it wont change anything have a good time making fun of people in bad sistuations .you will suffer something in your life to we all do every one of us will remember this post you wrote remember.....remember....

To ALL of the blame somebody slobs,
you folks are IDIOTS!

Homeowners are pretty much not to blame.
Most people are not continual purchasers of homes, are they? They assume that everyone has gone through the process. Who of you checked for surrounding saftey problems? I did, Autoliv is about 6 blocks from my house. But I also assume they have the proper permits to be inside of Brigham City.

Land owners?
Developers?
Realty?
The refinery owners?
Land Owners have mostly been rubber shoe wearin', wellfare burden taken, got to use my kids like India, hard workin', cow milkin', people. They sold out to developers because they had no money because of others saying "THEY JUST WANT TO MAKE MONEY". Developers want to sell their area and make money. Realtors need to make money, that is their job.
Small refiners buy just enough land to do their business. Big refiners plan ahead for expansion. I my experience in this feild, I have NEVER seen a refinery without a Buffer Zone........ But then this is Utah. Who said this guy could build a plant that could have problems in the near future in this locale? Who has changed city ordinances to allow people to move here? Chase the money and you find alot of small time, short term gainers.

The Oil Industry is not this big huge monster that wants to be the god of this world. OK,,,,, that's not true but,,,,, without our consumption they are nothing. That is the POWER of consumerism. I buy, someone supply.

To me short term gainers are those that consider themselves MOVERS & SHACKERS. You people elect the low sallaried folks of government yet expect them to be christ like. Of course this is not South America or Indo-China, but, a few trips to Lake Havasu would swing alot of hips in a small town in Utah. Just to say that you know "SO & SO GABILLIONARE" is enough to get most of you.

Just the smell of money, the faint whiff,,, of a fart,,, of a cent (Yeah,,,, a play on words, pretty good wasn't it?) makes you all,,,,,, including myself,,,,,,,, "Garden variety" hoes, I this world of money.

Money makes the evil giants live. If they are evil, fix it,,,,,, don't whine.

Who of you would complain if you were in their shoes?

I think you all are the next "LOVE CANAL" or "TIMES BEACH". Sucked in by, buy low, sell HIGH!

move it to the west desert!

and wait untl the great sl low cycle comes to an end. people are going to wake up to flooding...

You didnt buy a house next to a national park,,, hello..

you get a house dirt cheap next to a bad location. and then complain after something happens...

if you didnt want the risk of living next to something that can blow up or catch fire... you should of paid more and moved somewhere else.

This sort of situation is bad but what do those folks who bought houses right next to the refinery expect.

If you sit next to a fire you just might get burned some time. Common sense really.

shame on you woods cross!

How dare you allow people to build brand new homes next to refineris that have been having problems for years!

Shame on you home owners!

How dare you buy a home right next to a refinery that has been having problems for years.

What is the name of the developers?

The developers engineering firm report....that should be the first clue. Do you think for one minuet that their firm would give them anything but what they wanted to hear. The firm chosen should have been an independent one not one of their choosing.

C'mon folks. You didn't know about a "blast zone" when moving close to a GAS/OIL refinery? Ummm...here's a news flash, every day when you start your vehicle there's a controled explosion that takes place in your engine. It's the result of that refined gas being pumped into the cylinder of the engine and exploding. How could you say you didn't realize there could be a danger of something exploding at a refinery and a resulting blast zone? Are you that addicted to Nintendo that you have no concept of common sense?

Side note, one of the bigger refineries (like Chevron) having one of their boilers blow up could take out an area reaching from the south end of Farmington down into North Salt Lake.

Sue the city of woods cross, planing and zoneing. I worder who was the previous owners was? Probally someone with a inside track to P&Z.

Hard to believe hu? Refineries are needed. They have been there over 100 years. You build your houses too close, AND NOW YOU COMPLAINE ABOUT THEM. THIS IS JUST STUPID.
LIKE THE GUY WHO BUILT HIS HOUSE CLOSE TO THE AIRPORT, THEN COMPLAINED ABOUT THE NOISE OF THE PLANES.
WHO THE "L" IS BUILDING THESE HOUSES THAT CLOSE TO REFINERIES? YOU PEOPLE SHOULD BE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DAMAGES...ALONE !
DO YOU KNOW THAT IN 2006 A STUDY IN BOSTON UNIVERSITY ABOUT THE HIGH RATE OF CANCER IN BOUNTIFUL FOUND THAT IN DAVIS COUNTY , CANCER RELATED DEATHS WAS 2.123 X HIGHER THAN SALT LAKE COUNTY. THIS REPORT WAS NEVER RELEASED. IT WAS SNUFFED IN UTAH ! THEY DIDN'T WANT AN EXODUS FROM DAVIS COUNTY. MY SON WAS ATTENDING HARVARD AND SENT ME THE MAGAZINE ARTICLE.

Oh, sure. These whiners then drive home in cars that use gas just like they make at the refinery.
Hypocrites.

Even if the city zoned the area around the refinery safe for residential use why would anyone believe it was a good idea!!

I am sorry for the property damage but you whiners need to remember where you live and banners you usually wave until something happens to you. YOu live in Utah which is a very pro property rights state. You want the right to do what every you want with your property. But you complain like heck when your neighbor wants to do what they want with their property. Developers and Realtors have a lot of powerful lobbiest whom every year are trying to make it harder for municipalities to control land uses. You pro property people come unglued when the city, municipality or state writes ordinances or laws for tighter control on land use decisions. If you are the farmer wanting to develope your fields, you want to build a smaller lot subdivision to maximize you profit. Whne you are the new home buyer in phase one of the subdivision you are thrilled that your new house is on a dead end street with undeveloped farm land on your side, but then you complain when phase two goes in and your street is continud and the field next door is now more houses. You want to live in a private lane exclusive neighborhood but then complain that the city wont plow or resurface your privated road and your HOA can't afford to maintain all of your subdivisions open space. You tell the city that you are tax payers too and you deserve your streets plowed and maintained just like all the common folks. And then when the city tries to help you complain that your taxes are growing up. Hey Woods Cross residents you were able to buy a bigger starter castle because lots are cheeper next to the railroad tracks and refineries. So shut up and deal with your decision to buy a house in Woods Cross. Hey trains come off their tracks sometime

City Planners DO NOT care where you want to build as long as you are on the TAX REGISTER!

In Farmington, there are houses where there was 3-4 feet of water in the 1980's. Our duck blinds are taken over by houses.

What will the city do when the lake rises again?

NOTHING, but raise taxes to cover the shortfall of tax revenue by losing residents!

It seems to me that the refinery would not have given blessings for the developers to build in the blast. What would they have gained? More likely they documented their fears to the city. I think the developers, their engineering firm, Woods Cross City are the culpable parties here. I heard a rumor (it's just a rumor) that one of the city councilmen was the original property owner. If true I'll bet his home in not in the blast zone.

I don't think the homeowners are at fault at all. Who would suspect that an approved subdivision would be allowed in a blast zone. The guilty parties should be mandated to buy all of the homes in the blast zone (at the highest appraised rate since being built) and relocate everyone out of the blast zone. End of story.

What's all the compaining about? A few explosions never hurt anyone. If you don't like Woods Cross, move to New Orleans and deal with a few hurricanes. Or, you could move near HAFB and just deal with a few fuel tanks and 500 lb bombs being dropped near by.

Cheap home equal bad areas,,,

if you want to live in an area not next to something that cant blow up. then pay more... you bought the houses because they were cheap.

end of story.

what were they expecting, when they bought a home less than a half mile away from petroleum furnaces.... a beach water breeze?

I am sorry that this has happened to these people. I think they need to do a major inspection of the refinery. Something is wrong when this starts happening more often. I wouldn't have bought a house by the refinery, but things can happen to anyone. A jet from Hill Air Force Base could accidentally drop a bomb in my neighborhood, or we could have an earthquake, any number of things so I don't think the owners of these homes should be calld "whiners." If something like that happened to my home no matter where I lived I would expect the responsible parties to pay for it. Place blame on the greedy developers.

To all the people basically saying “That’s what they get for living next to a refinery!” you are a bunch of ignorant self absorbed tools. Last time I checked explosions were not standard operations for refineries. Comparing this incident to complaining about noise from the airport or a train is irrelevant. If people were complaining about the smell then I would say that those are relevant comparisons. This would compare to a plane crashing on a house because it could not make it to the runway or a train derailing and crashing into houses. You judgmental holier than thou people need to be a little more compassionate for your fellow people. Now I hope the refinery takes care of the problems and I also hope that no one gets greedy and tries to sue them.

I do feel bad for the people who have damaged houses. But they didn't know they were in a blast zone? I don't think it takes a rocket scientist to figure that a refinery can go boom, and make a big boom. I was in NSL last year when they did the evacuations because of that plant. They after all did evacuate woods cross, and even my neighbor in Foxborro got a call to evacuate. They evacuate you because your in a blast zone. If you move in next to a potential bomb, you may get blown up. Just my two cents. Not really trying to be an @s, I do think the refinery should replace all of the damages.

These comments have turned ugly...no constructive ideas. I live nearby, I'm not suing. I live there because I am surrounded by great people. I knew the SE was there when I purchased. Take the good with the bad. if this incident was becasue of neglect, fix it. if it was a "perfect storm" event, learn from it and drive on. I also don't care for the "you're an idiot for living in WX" schtick...it's cliche and been applied to everything from liquor laws, religion, and even college sports teams and demonstrates a lack of depth. We all live in a major earthquake zone too. Aren't we all fools for living in the SL valley?

woods cross accepted a study saying it was safe but after that concussion I agree with these ksl excerpts from posters.


****I live in North Salt Lake and it felt like something huge had landed on our roof, but the electricity when out right as the concussion hit. We at first didn't know what had happen, but we looked out our back window and saw the plumes of black and white smoke. My husband guessed it was Silver Refinery. Few minutes later heard on KSL that it was the Silver Refinery. But it felt like something landed on our house roof.



****I thought it was a sonic boom when it happened. Our whole house rocked and the windows bowed. We are way up on the bench. Wow!



***I lived in Elk Grove CA where an asphalt plant had 3 explosions in 2 years. The local fire department shut it down until it fixed the problem and had a safety plan in place to prevent further problems. The fixes and the plan had to be OKd by some safety company in TX before the fire dept would allow it to reopen. Why is this refinery allowed to just carry on business as usual? Is there no union there? No safety watchguards? What about the local towns? Can't they get together and make demands re a thorough overhaul of this company's safety procedures? I am just amazed that the people who live in the towns around this refinery just shrug off these explosions and don't do anything about them. You CAN demand a new safety procedure plan be implemented. You CAN get outside experts in the refinery industry to review the safety procedure plan and make recommendations. You CAN dictate how often inspections are done and who does them. It's YOUR lives,YOUR homes that are in danger!!


***When I worked for a home builder, I would often see diagrams of concentric circles surrounding places like this refinery, Kennecott, Hill Air Force Base and other volatile places. The circles represented the kill zones if one of these places was attacked or ever exploded. The first circle, usually right around the facility and about 10 blocks out, was the immediate kill zone with 100% fatality. Every circle outward had a certain percentage of deaths, amount of destruction and so on. I would sometimes stand there, in awe, of which subdivisions were allowed to build within the first three circles.

Does anyone know what time this happened? Was it around 9:15 in the morning? If that is the time I felt this at my house in S. Ogden! I thought it had to do with the excersise at Hill AFB. My living room window shook!

Seriously, You people have no common sense at all. I think all that Wasatch front pollution has caused some severe brain damage that effects your common sense.

Residents raise questions about safety ?
"How did the city decide it was safe to zone for residential use?" resident Adam Evarts asked.
questions about safety ? Then why did You move next door to an oil refinery?

Don’t go after the refinery ! Who is the STUPID one for moving there?

Would You people build a house next to a company that makes nitro ?

well there could be a bigger explosion at the kennecott smelter, the furnace's maxium is 180 tons per hour and they force 230 tons per hour in them which put the lives of the people who work there in danger, also it puts to much strain on all the other parts of the facility that the whole mountain can blow and then you could have many lives in magna lost,the foreign people who own kennecott rio tinto don't care about american lives they care about the money and they use part of that money to brainwash the utah people...............

You move in next to a refinery and then you want to complain about what happens when you live next to a refinery.

MOVE! What did you think was going to happen if and when an accident happend? DUH! The refinery should not have to do anything it is you homeowners that are at fault your the ones that moved in or built there, again DUH! It was an accident, these things just happen sometimes!

I am a WX resident and my house is built near the refinery. I have a copy of the Redd Engineering study in my possession. Email me if you would like a copy of the report @ c3479@aol.com. All residents that live just east of the refinery NEED to read this report. Not only does the report use a methodology that is scientifically sound and accepted universally in the industry, but it is prepared by an engineering firm with an excellent reputation. These houses were built 700 feet(!) closer than the minimum distance recommended by this report! Not only are there blast zones from Silver Eagle that fall right on these houses, but many of these same houses are in the blast zone from Pioneer pipeline (also presented in the report). Every house that was damaged by this blast is right in the blast zone predicted by Redd engineering! The city council is stating that they questioned the methodology used by Redd in favor of a no-name engineering firm...well, residents, it looks like Redd was dead-on accurate here. I, for one, want answers as to how the city council threw out the Redd report in favor of the 2nd report. It's very, very fishy. I am furious about this and feel absolutely mislead. The city council has now moved into a "cover our behinds" mode because of how bad this looks. One final note...in the Redd engineering conclusions, this statement is made "If the Woods Cross City council moves forward with approval of residences being built in this blast zone, they may be liable for any damages that may result from an incident at Silver Eagle or Pioneer Pipeline." I'd be sweating bullets right now if I was the city council. The residents deserve honest answers. You can verify that every statement I have made is absolutely true by reading the report.