Utah up to No. 14 in latest BCS Standings
Utah is up to No. 16 in the Coaches' Poll and 17th in the AP Top 25 following Saturday's 22-10 win over Wyoming, while the Cougars return to the rankings at No. 25. November 1st, 2009 @ 8:06pm
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I love it, the only way BYU can move up the polls is to not play, rofl.
Snowboard and all other Cougar fans,
Now that you are back in the polls, are you once again getting excited about busting the BSC this year? Is Bronco once again a good coach?
Go gators
When BYU unexpectedly beat OU, suddenly a BCS bid was plausible, so the BCS talk was in high gear. When BYU lost to FSU, all BYU fans knew the BCS hopes were over, and the BCS talk ceased.
When you must resort to putting words in the mouths of BYU fans in order to make them sound foolish, the only one sounding foolish is you.
were have you been? BYU fans were talking non-stop about a possible shot at a BCS game up to the minute TCU went up 14 zip. Then BYU fans disapeared until now. Go back and check the comment boards.
As Bronco has already pointed out, no one needs to try to make BYU fans look foolish, they do a good job on their own.
Get a life. It's pretty lame to draw conclusions about an entire body of students based upon one or two obscure messages on a comment board. If you really believe that this board represents a valid crossection of BYU opinion, you are truly a misguided soul. Sheesh.
Try your best to pass by notlawd's comments as ignorant as they are. Anyone who thinks "BS" U and the WAC are as good as the the MTN West has serious issues. But be nice to the little fella with little-man's disease. He had to relocate to San Fran because that was the only place he felt like a real man. You see his takes are like a train wreck. You can't help slowing down to take a look even knowing how grotesque it may be.
Btw, Utah being as high as 14, while stumbling over inadequate opponents week in and week out is as ridiculous as the Y being ranked #7 after 2 weeks into the year. It's a good thing they played Oregon early without their best back so the Ducks could be their crutch.
Matt S.
boohoo got another gift i see, moved back into the top twenty five.... i can't remember what the first gift was, but 1984 sticks out in my mind....
be grateful....two gifts is alot....
I'm fine by the way thanks. I am grateful for the 1984 National Championship. I don't seem to remember the last time the Utes had one...hmm can you?
TCU stayed at #6, BSU stayed at #7, and Utah moved up to #14.
BYU still not on the BCS map...
and it won't be a gift.... have a great week....
I'm not a coward I've just never been tested. I'd like to think that if I was I would pass.
I'm not a coward I've just never been tested. I'd like to think that if I was I would pass.
What we love determines what we seek.
What we seek determines what we think and do.
What we think and do determines who we are—and who we will become.
TCU will not jump into a spot above where they are. They can gain one of those spots, but that will be by virtue or a higher ranked team losing. If TCU beats Utah, it might give them the extra strength to jump Cincinnati but it is doubtful it will stay that way. It COULD happen, but if all the ranked teams win out...it's not likely.
Florida must still play in the SEC Championship game, and that will most likely be against Alabama...or LSU. Alabama has LSU this weekend, and a loss would change the dynamic of the SEC considerably.
Texas still has to play Kansas (although Kansas is looking much more beatable as the year progresses) and their arch rival Texas A&M, who put 52 points on Texas Tech. Texas also must get by the potential let-down games of UCF and Baylor.
Iowa still must beat the Buckeyes of Ohio State. Ohio State is quite like FSU this year...you never know which Ohio State is going to show up.
Cincinnati still has to play West Virginia (should win that one) and the dark horse Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh is ranked higher than Utah, and the remainder of TCU's schedule is weaker, so TCU jumping Cincinnati is unlikely. Boise State is also into the really weak portion of their schedule, so it would appear that spot is Cincinnati's to lose. Wins or not, Boise States schedule will keep them out of any real National Championship contention.
There is still a lot of football left to play. At this point it would appear that Florida and Texas are the front-runners, but Alabama is not yet done, nor is LSU if they take out Alabama this weekend. LSU and Alabama both suffer from the same problem....inconsistent play at the quarterback position and subsequently questionable offensive production. They also both have relentless defenses, especially Alabama. Should be a very interesting game.
Second, stop trying to represent Texas by using their slogan. In another thread, you claim to be a USC fan. Well, your team lost again. To a team that BSU destroyed. Again, you are an idiot.
Third, I don't understand why you cheer for the MWC, if you are such a huge fan of USC. Do you not realize that your team is in the PAC-10? You are no different than football fans living in Utah, that cheer for Boise State.
You continue to slam a team (BOISE STATE), that is superior to yours THIS YEAR. You don't see me ridiculing USC, Texas, TCU, or whoever you think you are a fan of. Your knowledge of how the BCS system works, is lacking.
Strength of schedule is part of the equation, but not a HUGE part of it. Boise State played what they were given. So far it has worked to their benefit. Not EVERY team in the BCS top 12 have an extremely difficult schedule. They have all played their share of pathetic teams.
Grow up, learn how the BCS really works, and my goodness... choose ONE team to cheer for. Or continue to change your mind every week I guess.
GO MWC!! It's also great to see 3 teams back in the top 25.
Thanks for the respect SingleFinger.
How is their record in big games (2-7).
I classify notlawd in the group of BYU haters whose lives are determined on the success of BYU.
-- Ra ra ra ra! ra ra ra ra! GO COUGARS !! RAW RAW !!!!
Now, after Wyoming, they are 14/16/17
This is falling in the polls how?
MWC Football!!
Karma for Jordan
Overrated? Maybe by 3-4 spots. I would put them #9 and TCU #8 right now. Both of them are that overrated. When the big games count, Boise State shows up.
Plus, a lot of teams need to play harder schedules. Stop pointing the finger at ONE team (being BSU) every single year. They play what they can schedule.
Next year, we have Toledo (home), Wyoming (away/who almost beat Utah), Oregon State (home), and Virginia Tech (away), for the first four games next season. Is that good enough so far for you? Of course it isn't. It never will be good enough. All the so-called "bigger" and "better" conferences and fans will always have an excuse.
you are right BSU is over rated by 3-4 spots but that garbage about them showing up for big games is ridiculous.
We Must protect this house. Go Utes!
Well, a "couple years" implies TWO years. I'm not sure where you learned math, but it is impossible for any team in college football to play more than ONE bowl game at the end of each season.
Boise State puts up a good game everytime they hit the field. Anyone that says otherwise is just ignorant, and must think that BYU or UofU football is a gift from God.
I will admit that the bowl game in Boise is pathetic, but you only mentioned "bowl games"...
BSU in bowl games....
00-01' - Won Humanitarian Bowl
01-02' - No bowl game. Well doesn't that suck.
02-03' - Won Humanitarian Bowl
03-04' - Won Fort Worth Bowl over #19 TCU
04-05' - Lost Liberty Bowl to #8 Louisville
05-06' - Lost MPC Computers Bowl to #19 Boston College
06-07' - Won Fiesta Bowl over #10 Oklahoma
07-08' - Lost Hawaii Bowl
08-09' - Lost Poinsettia Bowl to #11 TCU
All of those wins and losses were within a touchdown every game. So again, Boise State may not look good every game they play, but they still manage to keep the score close. Who wins at the end of each game? Oh yes, the team with the most points! Other stats don't matter when all is said and done.
However, I also like Utah for putting BYU in their place over the past century.
I think you have a point there. Too bad it at the top of your head. Did you say over the last century? Really? Some of you have heard this from me before but I've gotta go thru it now with KnotHead here so bear with me.
Over nearly the last 30 years BYU has won nearly 70 percent of their respective conf. championships, (including 10 straight around the 80's) and I can promise you Utah has not won the remaining balance. Their QB's have won more Davey O'Brian and Sammy Baugh awards than any other school in the nation. And don't forget 1 Heisman. They have placed nearly twice as many players in the NFL as Utah. Utah's success I will admit has been great but only over the last 5 years or so.
BYU has been going to bowl games since the time it meant something to go to a bowl game. Sure their record in bowls has not been stellar but they were playing teams like A&M, UCLA and Penn St., all with excellent programs at the time. They didn't have the luxury of playing a conferences 4th place team like Pitt. in '04. Their opponents were in the top 20. There were roughly 10-12 bowls back then, unlike the 25 or so now and Utah rarely played in any of them.
Utah has won more head to head but you have to go back to Brigham Young Academy to get those #'s.
Notlawd don't come around with your "century" smack until you can back it with facts and saying BYU sucks has never been a take and trolling or disagreeing each time you login doesn't count either. Now crawl back into that skanky black hole you call Raider Nation.
Matt S.
Why such anger for such a young lad. First of all a century means a 100 years not 30 years. I would not brag about BYUs bowl history, talk about watching a train wreck. The only thing that is worse is BYUs NCAA basketball tournament history.
Yes, BYU beats Utah in meaningless stats. However, most fans care about wins, big game wins, bowl victories (not bowl appearances), and undefeated seasons. Utah wins hands down there.
Keep digging for your stats that show that BYU is better while Utah and Boise just keep racking up wins.
You want to go back 100 years and compare victories and then jump ahead to the last 5 years and disregard the time between. I think I am correct in saying no one here really cares about what happened back in 1926 but if that helps your arguement then go back that far. How 'bout we stay in the last 40 years. With that said, give me something other than what Utah has done in the last 5 years (because remember now I agree Utah's success recently has been great but you are the one who droped the century card so let's try to go back just a bit farther). I am trying to keep it easy for you now. Give me something that proves your point. You keep dodging the time between. You want to compare the entire century but use only the last 5 years to prove your arguement. C'mon now show me how much you know about BYU/UTAH football. You can even google if you you would like but come back with something to prove your point. Has Utah had good teams in the past? Yes. You want to argue that BYU has never been good and that Utah has always dominated them and trying to make your arguement in a 5 year span.
Matt S.
I'm not a coward I've just never been tested. I'd like to think that if I was I would pass.
Wow the lameduck shows up again. I don't recall saying anything about 1984 in my post "Daffy Duck", but wait I will check again...Nope still nothing. Funny though how Utah fan seems to draw on that even though it was "so long ago that it does not matter". You just proved my point you idiot. You just talk of recent years (and 5 years ago is not that long ago), when the Utes have had good years, but seem to want to generalize the entire BYU program and the history of the 2 schools based on what has happened since the BCS inception which is about 6 years or so. You may not realize this, but college football was going on long before 2002. I will pose the same opportunity to you as I did with notlawd. Tell me what Utah did before the BCS. I think it is a valid arguement. Just because you were only 8 when the BCS began does not mean college football was not being played before that. My arguement is, U fan thinks Utah has dominated BYU since the program's onsets when all you bring to the table in the arguement is the last 5 years.
You have been following for 7 or 8 years and you want to argue the 2 teams based on less than 10% of either schools history? In the last 9 years Utah has won 5 of those years and after this year it will be tied at 5 each over the last 10 years. That sound real dominating to me man.
And did you really go to the "IF" card? "If the BCS were not around last year..." WHAT!? And you call me moronic when you are basing your arguement on an "IF". Ya well if my aunt had a package she would be my uncle. «removed»is "IF"? Get outa here LaDuc. I would rather read notlawd's takes than to hear you rant about "IF's" and "BUT's".
Notlawd, you just became my favorite poster here. Never again will I call your posts train wrecks. Can't wait to hear more from you.
Matt S.
I'm not a coward I've just never been tested. I'd like to think that if I was I would pass.
You still can't use the "IF" card man. If you think they would have given you the national championship based on being undefeated only is stupid. Not with the schedules the teams in the SEC have to face weekly.
Matt S.
You though ARE a moron
Do you evey wonder why so many people find BYU fans annoying? Because you are annoying. Stop with the fake humility, popcorn popping on the apricot tree song (what the blank does that mean anyway), blaming the refs everytime you lose, talking smack until you lose and then disapearing until the next week, etc, etc, etc, and maybe non-BYU fans will someday respect you. You guys act like such clown each week and your coach's holier than thou attitude makes people sick. This is not a troll post. I am just trying to offer a little helpful advice for the sake of the image of all of Utah.
The majority of BYU haters hate BYU because they hate the Mormon church, not because of the fans.
Yes, notlawd, anyone with a brain knows what he meant. That excludes you, so I'll explain it for you. Some uninformed fans complain about everything the coaches do regardless of the reason. Coach Mendenhall said that people like you, notlawd, should shut up because you don't have a clue.
You like to use that excuse because it is easy.
BTW, Amy B., Bronco was refering to BYU fans when he said they are uneducated. I am not a BYU fan in case you have not noticed. Leave it to a BYU fan to stand by the coach when he calls you undeducated but fans were quick to throw him under the bus for the TCU loss.
LOL Go Cougars!
I'm not a coward I've just never been tested. I'd like to think that if I was I would pass.
Wow. Your predictions are amazing. Can you see "what could have been"? Or can you possibly see into the future too?
Yes, BSU lost to TCU... by ONE point. Woopty doo! Oh wait, if that game would have been played in Boise, BSU would have won. Or, if it was played in Fort Worth, TCU would have won by a landslide. haha! So stupid.
Hmmm... if the Oregon game would have been played in Eugene, it would have been a different outcome. Well, we killed them in Eugene last year. But I'm glad you can see "what could have been".
Dude, that is one of those games where the score doesn't give the whole story. TCU owned your Broncos in that game.
A good conscience is a continual christmas.
BYU will be good again next year. So will Utah. So will TCU. Will that ever change? I don't know. I like the competition.
A good conscience is a continual christmas.
As for the team and it's coaches at BYU, yes they do have their problems. No team is without their problems, even your precious Utes who now seem to have a qb controversy brewing. That's not to say that as a BYU fan I do not respect what Utah has done over the past decade. They have clearly dethroned BYU as the best program in the state, but that doesn't mean I am going to stop being a BYU fan no matter how much you or anyone else runs down the program.
As for the most annoying fans in the country; I think that title would go to BSU fans. The way they talk, you would think they have been to more BCS games than Utah, or that it is their right. Just remember, they are 1-5 in their last 6 bowl games. Even BYU has a better bowl record than that and I think you would agree, that is saying something.
I think you are confused about Utah fans being uneducated. You were thinking of BYU fans. Even your coach agrees.
Do you normally comment without even reading even the headline?
The old headline was about the AP and Coaches before the BCS rankings were out.
BYU is way overated at unrated.
Besides Bama proved they were who we thought they were last year in the Sugar bowl.
boohoo is way overated at unrated.....
that is the best yet.....
My point is that Oregon should be ranked #5 not 8, and BYU doesn't deserve a top 25 spot anymore. Also Utah moved up a spot (subtle). I believe BYU was put in back in the top 25 and Oregon was held down to ebb the evidence that Boise deserves the shot over TCU for the BCS game.
Call me what you want, I am just calling it as I see it.
To surrender is as ignoble as it is foolish… above all else remember that we as attackers have the initiative, ...
the utes beat Wyoming by 12, that's a little better than "squeaking by" as you put it.
notlawd
School does not start until Tuesday. Besides I'm still at work, you know the place where hardworking BYU fans need to be to support the Ute faithful.
What I can't believe is that this is how you spend your whole Sunday afternoon posting on KSL, which clearly shows more BYU support than Utah
how can boohoo be back in the polls at all....all they did was lick their wounds ......that's not poll material....
Utah even has a chance, albeit a very long shot, to get to a BCS game this year. Even if they don't, they should start next season with a decent ranking.
Wow, Utah fans could not have expected to be in this position and I am sure BYU fans did not expect to have their season done so soon.
Yes utah squeaked by, they were down until the 4th quarter where they pulled ahead by 6, and wyoming just had to score a TD to win the game, but no they throw an int, and utah scores off a short field, making it a 12 point victory.
BYU matches up well with teams like wyo(and the rest of the teams in the mwc, that arent utah and TCU), so i predict BYU beating wyo 35-17 with no come from behind win
Utah squeaked by?
Utah's defense holding Wyoming to 1 first down in the second half had nothing to do with the win eh?
They did what they had to do to win and won what more do you expect or want from them?
Taking advantage of your opponents mistakes (turnovers) is all part of the game.
Granted it would be nice if they would go into a game and take control for all 4 quarters and not leave things in doubt until the end of the game or overtime.
UTES winning ugly, but winning.
All you zoobs, get your smack ready for next week..I'll be ready. Good luck in Laramie....
how the eff is USC above Utah in the polls???
this is the typical big conference bias!
granted Utah has not had a mind blowing schedule with tough opponents... but look at USC. LOST to unranked Washington LOST big to Oregon. Utah beat all the unranked teams they played and lost not as big to Oregon.
and i love to hear all the apologists say about Oregon... oh this isn't the same Oregon team that Boise beat to a pulp.
It is so hard for any of the small conferences to get the deserved recognition... I'm surprised BSU and TCU are above Iowa - i believe it's well deserved - just surprised.
I just wish congress would get involved and break up the BCS (KIDDING - but it does need to be fixed)
At the conclusion of the 1984 college football season, BYU was the only undefeated team in Division I-A. As such, BYU's fanbase assumed that BYU would win the national championship if it won its bowl game. However, BYU, as champion of the Western Athletic Conference (WAC), was obligated to play in the Holiday Bowl. The Holiday Bowl was not one of the top-tier bowls, and, as such, would not automatically draw a high-caliber opponent for the WAC champion most years. Many of the poll voters were reluctant to crown a WAC team as national champion, because of the ostensibly easier schedule that a WAC team would play in comparison to a Pac 10 or Southeastern Conference team. Much as the University of Utah and Boise State would learn 20 years later, undefeated on the season does not guarantee a championship.
The Holiday Bowl furiously recruited teams from the major conferences to play BYU in the Holiday Bowl. But it was difficult to find takers. Most major programs felt that there was more to lose in facing a BYU team and losing than there was to be gained by facing BYU and winning. Eventually, however, the Michigan Wolverines agreed to play BYU. However, with only a 6-5 record, the Wolverines were hardly the sort of opponent that a prospective national champion would expect to be playing in their bowl game.
HATEU
Not this year though.
2-TCU
3-Boise St.
4-Florida
5-Oregon
6-Iowa
7-Louisana St.
8-Alabama
9-Cincinnati
10-Penn St.
This is my top ten. I don't buy the SEC this year. I don't think any of the big name teams want anything to do with TCU, Boise St., or Oregon. (they're all good)