@Chris F. - I hate explosions. I remember working at the shamrock milk company in the 50's and some twit was smoking next to a refueling station. BOOOOM!!! Have had hearing problems ever since.
@Chris F. - Yes Chris..you need to evacuate now. Please take your laptop and stay tuned to the comments board for any life-saving/evacuation information.
@Chris F. - My wife called me- we live in Woods Cross and said the whole house shook. She said there was a huge almost sonic boom and then a buzz that lasted in the air for about 40 seconds!
@Chris F. - Matt S...it was not nuts you dang troll. It was probably gasoline or other fuel. Nuts are not combustible material. Dang sometiems i feel like i am the only one wiht a brain on this comment board.
@Chris F. - I am at work and I read this article, then I just looked out the window 5 minutes ago and saw a bunch of tiny black clouds. And I work way far away. I couldn't believe it!
@Chris F. - We have UPS systems that we monitor and they report when they have lost power and on battery backup. The time on the reports begin at 09:10:06 am. We have about 6 locations in the Area that lost power for a moment, then came back on.
@Chris F. - Hey 'Foxy Grandpa'. I call BS that you're foxy, or a grandpa. Your comment about 'nuts' was completely hillarious, far too funny to have come from an old man...
@Chris F. - Actually BUYDABULLET have you ever listened to how clever some older people are? They can more funny than most people. I can see FOXY GRANDPA really being a grandpa.
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I'm not a coward I've just never been tested. I'd like to think that if I was I would pass.
@Chris F. - Oh - and believe it or not but nuts contain oil which is combustible. So if someone says their nuts are on fire, it might just be chestnuts roasting.
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@Chris F. - I work in Salt Lake around 2100 S and Redwood. I didn't hear or feel anything.
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I'm not a coward I've just never been tested. I'd like to think that if I was I would pass.
@Chris F. - I live and work in Utah County. I saw the pictures and read the article from KSL all the way down here! I'm pretty shaken up, of course, but I think I'll be alright.
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@Chris F. - My dad worked at one of the refineries for 32 years. As he got closer to retirement, he said he was worried about things like this happening because the refineries were more often hiring people who had no experience with college degrees that ran the refinery from what a book said vs. listening to the old hands who had the experience. Guess my dad was right that we'd start seeing these problems.
Just a side note, one of the boilers at the larger refineries going up has the potential to take out almost all of woods cross, rose park, and other surrounding areas. There's a reason they say "safety first" folks.
@Chris F. - well i say we should turn this into a debate about whether old men are funny or not -
if they aren't funny - then why do we allow them to exist?
and if they are funny - why aren't their comedians that are old....
hmmmm..... while i do agree that they are funny - i believe it would be better for our economy (and it would kind of be like a last joke) if we just didn't allow them to exist anymore.
so let's kill 'em - we can still get our laughs, and unemployment will improve greatly.
AS AN ADDED BONUS - no more crazy old people driving on the road.
@Chris F. - I live in Tooele and felt my entire house shaking, but then I realized it was due to all the Halloween stuff being 50% off at our local Walmart and people RUSHING to get there before it's gone!
@Chris F. - It was there first, you moved in around the refinery. You knew the risks when you built/bought there so dont complain you dont like it then move!
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@Chris F. - Posting this at the top so more people will see it. I live right by the refinery. Alarms were going off most of the night, about 45 minutes to 1.5 hours apart, kept waking me up. I knew they had a problem. Didn't they know there was a problem? Almost 12 hours after the first alarm and they had not found the leak? Do they have enough people on shift? A blast this size and no one was hurt? Thankfully so, but where was everyone? Were they still looking for the reason for last nights alarms? A lot of questions I would like to ask the person in charge.
@Quinn C. - Apparently I'm part of the stupid punks who like the Morning Crew....What do you all listen too who are voting him troll? 100 FM??? I am clearly in the wrong place....but I do live in Lehi and I felt nothing here as well.....nor did I see anything. It is a great feeling knowing I just moved from Tooele just a week ago...ha ha, YES!
@theguy - I live in Pocatello and I felt the house shake up here! Wasn't related to this explosion, more related to the bad mexican food I ate last night....oh my poor stomach!!!
@theguy - They really should mention the mutual aid drill last week for just such a scenario. Of course KSL didn't show up for that. Fox was the only news agency to make an appearance. They were aware of it though, and should have mentioned it in the article. Instead they focus on the sensationalistic aspects of the story and dwell on the negative. How about asking why the H*** Woods Cross city allows homes to be built so close to a refinery. Just plain stupid.
@theguy - Life is a risk, you just deal with it. If you don't get 86'd by a refinery explosion, something else will get you, and it might be even more painful than death by refinery explosion.
@theguy - I live in the south pole, and we felt it here. Al Gore tried to say it was a slab of ice falling into the ocean, but it felt more like a refinery exploding or somethin'
@Apologist - OK now people are stretching it. I live in Farmington, we heard it, and went outside to look. No, my house didn't shake and the blinds didn't rattle or anything else. So either you have a very poorly built house or you are fibbing.
@asc391963 - It is good to know that stations other than KSL have listeners who can't spell.
So did RFH have Mark Shurtleff in studio to talk about the reasons behind his suspending his campaign? Oh, that's right! X96 listeners don't know how to vote, so they wouldn't care about news that has a far reaching, long term impact on Utah. They just care about fire, explosions, and rock and roll (is that what they play on X96 now - or is it more like MTV where is it just whiny teenagers complaining about life?)
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Good judgment comes with experience. Unfortunately, experience usually comes from bad judgment.
In Centerville, the east side, the lights went out for a very short time-when they came back on the house shook-I went outside to look and saw nothing-but I could not look south due to the trees-
@Webmonkey - Katep: I live in Foxboro North and I'm having my boyfriend check right now. My friend that lives in bountiful said she had heard that there were reports of damage to that area which is why she called me. Hopefully I hear something soon because I'm worried!
@Webmonkey - Property value won't change it's a crap area to start with, who would want to live next to a refinery? I say if you build next to a refinery you should be ready for these kinds of things to happen. I do feel bad for the people that had damage to their homes but when your back yard is a refinery you have to expect it to happen sooner or later.
We live in Farmington on the bench and I was outside when the explosin happened and I could hear the windows on houses around me rattle. Saw flames and lots of smoke in the refinery area.
I was driving home on 11th west when I hear the explosion and saw the flames. It sounded like a hissing snake I grabed my camera and got pictures. Does anyone know how to post them here?
@George C. - And you dont think that the gas industry will use this as an excuse to raise prices, it is manipulation, but any time they get the chance they are all over it.
@George C. - also, does anyone know if that refinery had anything to do with flying J. i heard they were trying to sell their refinery in utah to bail them out of debt and they were closer selling the one in california. think it could have been on purpose for insurance to save the company.
My friend is at work in west Kaysville and they all wondered if it was an earthquake in their building. I'm on the east side of Kaysville and didn't feel anything. So thanks to all of you who took the hit for me! :)
I live in Kaysville and I felt the house shake, and I was by a window that was open, and a huge gust of wind came through the window. I thought it was a small earthquake, then my Father in Layton called me right after and asked me if I felt that!
My wife and I heard the explosion and we live in Clinton. We were outside when we heard it, and my wife commented that it sounded like the explosion that recently happened at Hill Airforce Base, except that one shook our house. I could see the flames from Layton.
@Steve T. - I live in Clinton also....it actually rattled my windows....I first thought it might have something to do with the exercises they are having at Hill AFB this week.
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This is Great, The first time our beloved AG Mark Shurtleff gets back on the front page of KSL.com to announce that he isn't going to run for senator, He gets Trumped by a refinery fire. I LOVE THIS. He might end up sueing the refinery for taking away his minute in the spotlight. I felt the explosion. OH MY GOSH. I hope everyone is OK...
Wow! I was getting ready to leave my house and there was a huge boom and my whole house shook. Had to go outside and check the roof then saw the refinery in flames. I was sure a plane hit my house!
I live in North Centerville on the bench. It was scary.
@griffithtd - It's kind of funny that I was leaving to go to BELFOR in North Salt Lake where my husband (BELFOR) was donating 500 fire alarms to the firemen from South Davis County. I was just leaving to go take pictures there but the blast happened, hubby called and said not to go because the firemen were called away to the refinery. Now my husband and the rest of his office have been at the scene for hours and he says it's a mess! It's amazing nobody got killed today!!
Another miracle!
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I'm not a coward I've just never been tested. I'd like to think that if I was I would pass.
Felt it here about 13th east in Bountiful. I heard a rushing sound, and then felt as though something heavy landed on the roof and the whole house shook.
@Homer j. simpson - I used to fly out of skypark, any aircraft in the pattern that got hit with an explosion like that would be down without a doubt...mostly students flying out of there too, bad bad...
@Homer j. simpson - we got put on stand by incase needed....it was reported that a plane went down at the skypark also. But I haven't seen anything about that on any of the news sites.
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@Hayley-J - So that's why there was so much black smoke coming from Holly. I'm just a few blocks from Silver Eagle and that boom shook my house .. much more than a sonic boom.
Thanks to RFH for your up to date reporting!
@Hayley-J - It caused power surges throughout the area so the other refineries are burning off pressure...just a safety precaution. Funny though, on Fox13 they are showing the traffic camera pics of Holly saying "you can see the fire still burning."
I used to live in that area. Silver Eagle Refinery is always having problems with fires and explosions. I hope that everyone that worked around there is safe. I will definitely be interested in hearing more.
@inacrazyworld - When the power goes out it upsets plant processes. Apparently Flying J had a huge flare burnoff as a result. Here they asked excess personnel to leave until they get the plants back online.
@inacrazyworld - I get a kick out of all these people who bought homes around these refineries and then complain that they should move them. These are the same right wing morons who complain that we do not have enough oil refining and now that they bought a home nearby they want to close them down. The refineries have been there for over 40 years, if you dont like them then move!
I live in North Salt Lake and it felt like something huge had landed on our roof, but the electricity when out right as the concussion hit. We at first didn't know what had happen, but we looked out our back window and saw the plumes of black and white smoke. My husband guessed it was Silver Refinery. Few minutes later heard on KSL that it was the Silver Refinery. But it felt like something landed on our house roof.
We live in Layton, near the South Gate of HAFB. We thought something had dropped on our house. I actually went outside and checked. House shook, windows rattled.
The explosion was so strong it knocked my dentures out--actually, I was safely indoors 5 miles away but could see a lot of smoke! I hope no one is injured.
My husband works at Flying J and it is not on fire. He said it was just a flare (which makes sence since it would flare up from the power briefly going out)
What happened was all the refineries down in the area were burning off excess product also called flaring. Something caused Silver Eagle refinery to get a back lash which essentially reversed the whole processed and exploded in the refinery instead of burning off properly. That’s the story right now, haven’t heard of if everyone is okay.
I was working out at the gym. Sounded like something dropped on the roof but I assumed they were just working on the roof or something. Nobody thought anything of it from what I can tell.
There was no fire when I walked out. Just flames coming out of a smokestack. The normal stuff but with a bit extra.
What happened was all the refineries down in the area were burning off excess product also called flaring. Something caused Silver Eagle refinery to get a back lash which essentially reversed the whole processed and exploded in the refinery instead of burning off properly. That’s the story right now, haven’t heard of if everyone is okay.
I also heard it AS it was breaking on X96! I have a family member that USED to work at KSL. Do you know why it took them so long to address this? Because they had to decide HOW it affected the Mormon community before they would decide IF it would be reported. I am not a hater....those were the direct words from the new boss at KSL when he took the news crew to lunch to introduce himself to the KSL team. I am just saying....good job X96.
@Really? Why? - Right. Are you the one who said X96 was reporting it before the dispatchers sent it out to the fire department? Someone said X96 had it on the radio @ 9:11am when the fire department didn't get the call until 9:13am. I doubt X96 knew about it before the fire department. Get a life. KUTV didn't have it on until way, way after KSL. So what does that mean?
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It was caused by a power outage that affected Holly, Silver Eagle and chevron. When the power went out the natural gas builds up, when it came back on it sparked the explosions. This is due to the power outage. Thank god no one has been injured!!!!!! I work for one of the refineries.
@slcgramps - And the first of the excuses is offered. It isn't our fault, the power company caused it. How about we let the investigation happen slcgramps and then point fingers.
@slcgramps - I work at 500 south and I15 in Bountiful. at about 8:07 this morning the power went out for 1-2 seconds. an hour later this happened, I was guessing that they done a prelim safety check then started up some circuits, Silver just missed something and a buildup of fumes went up the wrong way, the other refineries has simular but not to the extent of silver. We felt it, iw was like all the ceiling tiles lifted then dropped all at once.
When will WOODS CROSS CITY realize that the community safety outways the value of this death trap refinery that has now had three major explosions in a short period of time. It is time to either shut down Silver Eagle or massivly evacuate our now sludge ridden city. If the City will not take action then the Woods Cross Community needs to take the lead.
We now have a school behind this death trap. Why should we keep playing Russian Roulette with the lives of our kids?
Woods Cross City will you do anything to protect us, or just keep allowing this to happen? Enough is Enough! Stop bending over backwards for the nasty refineries and start taking action to protect your community.
@Roger A. - well roger, i believe the refinery was there first, so it was the cities dumb idea to put the school there. And the refineries give alot of people jobs, so shutting it down in a recession is not the brightest idea.
@Roger A. - Yes, the refineries where there first. But, who didn't have the foresight to think people would need/want to live there. Moving the refineries may be a large project, but there are many benefits. 1. Safety 2. Less traffic from tankers etc 3. No more eye sore. Crap it makes so much sense. Build new refineries west of Grantsville with the latest, greatest, safest technology and a pipeline, or railway into the valley to transport the fuel/petroleum. I just wish Woods Cross had the guts to stop issuing building permits to the refineries for expansion.
@Roger A. - Those facilities have been there for 20+ years. So I’m pretty sure that means everyone who has moved into the area in that time frame knew what they were getting themselves in to. Sounds to me if you don’t like it you should move and get your kids out of the schools near by. You as the parent put them in that school so you’re just as much as fault for their danger level as the refineries are.
Silver Eagles fire brigade did an AWESOME job!! Way to go boys! Keep in mind while you worry about the schools near by, we at home get to worry about OUR fire fighters who are fighting the fire down there. They all have families to go home to tonight too. Good thing they know what they are doing… training well worth the money!
@Roger A. - Don't buy or build a house next to a refinery. I think those refinery's have been there for 20 plus years. If my memory serves me well, there weren't many homes around them back then.
@Roger A. - So because the refineries were there first, this means they can have right to cause community damage whenever they want? Give me a break.
If a restaurant breaks health violations they can be shut down, EVEN IF THEY WERE THERE BEFORE THE RESIDENTS! We are not powerless to careless refineries that have now CAUSED MULTIPLE EXPLOSIONS.
If a child died, would you tell the parents to move? Is our faults for trying to find an affordable homes, assuming the finery would not explode in our backyards? What would you say to Tim Harter who was severely burned by the last explosion in JAN of THIS YEAR? Sorry pal you knew the risks.
Silver Eagle is a predator to our community. It is sad they have such strong support.
@Roger A. - Roger,
Considering that I have numerous family members that work there, Tim did know the possibilities of being injured on the job. But it is no different than if he were to work on a construction site or work at Wendy’s. Every job comes with that possibility. It was just a few days ago that Tesoro experienced something of the same nature. The refineries are working together to be better prepared for these types of emergencies. Don’t get your feathers all ruffled. Its not like they plan these fires & explosions, it’s the nature of the industry.
However I am sure if there wasn’t gas & diesel you’d complain too. So until everyone can walk to work, be grateful we have these companies to provide fuel for us so you can live in that affordable home you speak of.
Are you REALLY ok with this? All the explosions, all the mishaps. SE is currently under investigation for their INCREDIBLY poor safety record. They will probably be shut down regardless, but what I find sad is you defend this carelessness that could get someone killed.
I am fairly certain all those people you know who work at SE, deserve to be safe as well.
If a construction worker is constantly given faulty equipment and that equipment causes his death is that REALLY just part of the job? I mean new equipment costs money right? And we are in a down economy.
Come on people open your eyes. Think big picture. SE has had chance after chance after chance.
@Roger A. - Roger A.
There is a very good reason the houses are affordable near the refineries. If they weren't there...you would be unable to afford a home there.
It seems they were able to put the fire out. I haven't heard of any injuries especially from nearby residents that are commenting...so it seems they have done a good job of keeping people safe.
The "nasty" refineries are the ones that pay enough taxes to provide roads and schools in your area plus quite a few elsewhere.
As others have stated...if it bothers you that they are/were there...move.
@Craig L. - I keep hearing that the refineries have been there 20 years...more like 40. If you live near them, quit whining. With all likelyhood, they were there before your neighborhood was even built. If you cant stand the heat, then get out of the kitchen.
I live in woods cross and was gettin ready for work... the bathroom lights flickered and it sounded like someone kicked my door... has anyone seen paranormal activities? i felt like it was living in that movie!!!!
@Skydive33 - I doubt that was why you were fired and I'm sure you have been fired before. If you think you were fired for that just file a whistle blower claim you loser!!!
@Skydive33 - No slcgramps, I have NEVER been fired before...had been with Silver Eagle for 27 years. Please don't go offtopic and open your thoughts to some thing you obviously know nothing about. I am cerrtainly no loser as I tried to save this refinery and surrounding community from exactly what just happened. If you are so 'sure' about my life, please let me know what the future holds for me.
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@Skydive33 - Skydive33
Then we have you to blame?
Did you report the problems to OSHA?
Did you even attempt to "go public" with the incriminating evidence you have had for how many years?
If this company is so corrupt and unsafe WHY did you work for them for so long? If they are that bad...."all it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing".
WHY did YOU do nothing?
Hey Foxy Grandpa why are you telling people to evacuate the fire is out and and the fire dept is saying we do not have to evacuate good thing what you are saying is on a message board and not in real life. people like you can cause alot of panic I live less than a half of a mile from the refinery and watched them put the fire out. its scary but no need to panic.sheesh Chill gramps
@mikeyboy84041 - This kind of thing is exactly the reason there needs to be a Sarcasm font! Can't you hear it in his comment? He was obviously making fun of the person who thought it might be necessary to evacuate!
@mikeyboy84041 - Last time (not too long ago, you may remember) it WAS necessary to evacuate. This time it took 30 minutes or more before we had any word that it might be under control. This kind of fuel doesn't wait that long.
@mikeyboy84041 - No worries orc. I got ya. Mikey was making it sound like needless panic for anyone to evacuate. I'm just not waiting around for the guys to come knocking on the door again to say my family might be (or has been) in danger. Why risk it? There are lots of roads and room for anyone to get out that wants to. They just went for a drive.
Makes me feel great that I built a new home in the neighbor right about the refinery that continues to catch on fire or explode. You would think they could get this under control sooner or later!!
@Lisa T. - The real estate agent probably should have told you that the huge, smelly beast in the neighborhood was a refinery and that there are inherent dangers in refining oil.
@Lisa T. - I completely agree I built my house next to the sewer treatment plant in Utah county and I keep getting these "smells". Granted the treatment plant was there first but they should still fix it.
Im up in mueller park canyon, it hit the house so hard i thought 1)I had a boulder sitting in the kitchen or 2)HAFB launched a jet a little faster then it should have.
The whole house fell over and then somehow sprang back up! I have never seen it shake like that before!!
I work across I-15 at Murdock Chev and the explosion was so powerful we thought a huge piece of tank landed on our roof. I called my wife in north east Layton and she said she felt the boom from there.
Hope all the workers are safe. I think whatever government agency or whoever inspects this place needs to be smacked upside the head. There is always some sort of problem there and it's just a matter of time before something really bad happens and there is a loss of life.
@Navywyf2him - Hooray for Channel 2! I think it is funny we get updates from Channel 2 on a KSL post before KSL can put any updates!
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I'm not a coward I've just never been tested. I'd like to think that if I was I would pass.
@Navywyf2him - Hooray for Channel 2! I think it is funny channel 2 has updates before KSL does on their website and also more funny that it gets put in a thread before KSL can make updates!
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I'm not a coward I've just never been tested. I'd like to think that if I was I would pass.
@Daryl B. - oh get over yourselves people i wanted to see if it was the same place. If it was then they need to take better safety precautions im glad no one was hurt.
for one, i hope everyone is okay. for three, if you think its a sonic boom.... how wrong you are, the only time a jet is going to go super sonic over a city is if its an emergency. and if it were an emergency you would hear more than a blast.... on the other hand i think its a terrorist attack... they want to raise our oil prices to weaken our country more! then INVADE!!!!!!!! starting with alaska! citizens.. FLEE!
@willgo2 - Not true WILLGO2 - I live in Ogden and sometimes, granted very rarely; some jet pilots will create a sonic boom for no reason, they always get in a lot of trouble for it too. I can remember on 3 separate occasions in my life where this has happened.
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I'm not a coward I've just never been tested. I'd like to think that if I was I would pass.
@toad - They were here long before you were. If you don't like it then move to the west desert, you'll probably be safer there anyway...
I'm getting sick and tired of you whinners complaining about the refineries! WHO ELSE IS GOING TO MAKE GAS SO YOU CAN DRIVE YOUR @#$@^*& CARS AROUND???
That being said Silver Eagle has no excuse for so many incidents. Other refineries do a lot better job but good job for getting the fire put out so quickly!
I think it's about time we move the refineries to the middle of no-where...maybe out by Dale. There would be less risk of injury, less traffic from tanker trucks, and less pollution. The surrounding cities need to stop approving any building permits for expansion to the refineries.
@PoKey - Hey PoKey do you have BILLIONS of dollars to do said task??? Do you want $10 a gallon gas prices??? oh what no you don't??? THEN GET A LIFE AND STOP BLASTING THE REFINERIES!!!
You people could do nothing without consuming Gasoline! There were here first, don't live by one if you are scared.
Any other idiots who think it would be a good idea to get rid of the refineries???
@PoKey - Gotta love you NIMBY types! You moved in there because of the cheap property value and now you beeoching about the fact. Take responsibility for your apparently bad decision and move your arse out to DELL. No refinereries and best of all for the rest of us, NO INTERNET CONNECTION!
Idiot!
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I live on Orchard Dr. in Bountiful And my room shook for a sec. My dog kennel was rattling. I thought my neighbor had dropped something, because I live in a townhome and we can hear things. I just hope next time I take it more seriously. It could have been an earth quake or something and I just sat here!
@lonewolfeyes - haha I thought it was funny that KSL had "Public asked to help cut down on air pollution" as a top story when it happened, and as I was reading it I looked up to the wonderful sight of black smoke covering the skyline. Grrreat. :/
I live in Kaysville, the whole house shook. Just heard from a buddy who lives across the street from the refinery. It knocked all the pictures off his wall, he drove around the hood to see what was going on and saw someones front door blown off the home and alot of garage doors buckeled.
My husband works at Murdock Chevy across I 15 and he said that the force of the blast blew out windows in the shop and he felt the repercussion of it in his chest. Silver Eagle is going to kill us all one of these days...
@Elkmountain - That's because most of them are just trying to jump on the my house/business shook wagon, I tried but the wagon was full. I live in Sandy and didn't hear or feel anything
Thank you so much for making a 2 minute story cover the 25 minutes of airtime that was supposed to be a live performance by Michael Buble on Rachel Ray's show. Now every woman in Utah can be mad at you instead of me for a change. Wahooooo! Who wants to join me for Mai Tai's!
@LetTheMilesGoBy - Rachel Ray is a really crappy cook that got lucky with a TV show cause she can make a hamburger 100 different ways, honestly it's not that hard to put a different spice or type of garlic in a hamburger patty. She sounds like she has smoked most her life. Michael Buble is a music artist, not really sure how to describe his style of music.
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I'm not a coward I've just never been tested. I'd like to think that if I was I would pass.
I agree with Roger that something needs to be done with silver eagle. Yes the refinery was there first. However, in just a short period of time (1-2years) there have been too many instances of fire and explosion from this refinery. Holly, Flying J, and Cheveron have less instances combined than silver eagle has alone. Protect the citizens not the corporations!!!!
I live in Foxboro in North Salt Lake and it Shook the house almost to the equivelent of the 1994 Northridge earthquake in California( That was a fun one to ride out)
I was at dicks market in bountiful just off of 2600 S and really felt the boom! The lights kind of dimmed and shook then the huge BOOM. Yikes, I think I peed my pants a little.
Okay I've lived nearby for a year and this is boom #2
thinkin I should move. I live in the Mobile Home Park east of Silver Eagle, and let me tell ya these tin cans can't take much more. And when this happens we seem to be forgotten.
I live in Woods Cross felt the explosion. Shook the whole house for 3-4 seconds and there was a whoosing sound for a least half a minute after that.
Got my mail today. Silver Eagle Refinery inviting me to an open house so they can answer all my safety concerns Thursday Nov 12. Can't wait to go to that open house and hear how safe I am.
WoodsCross City, Mayor Kent Parry please, shut these guys down before they kill someone. They have a terrible safety record.
I lived in Elk Grove CA where an asphalt plant had 3 explosions in 2 years. The local fire department shut it down until it fixed the problem and had a safety plan in place to prevent further problems. The fixes and the plan had to be OKd by some safety company in TX before the fire dept would allow it to reopen. Why is this refinery allowed to just carry on business as usual? Is there no union there? No safety watchguards? What about the local towns? Can't they get together and make demands re a thorough overhaul of this company's safety procedures? I am just amazed that the people who live in the towns around this refinery just shrug off these explosions and don't do anything about them. You CAN demand a new safety procedure plan be implemented. You CAN get outside experts in the refinery industry to review the safety procedure plan and make recommendations. You CAN dictate how often inspections are done and who does them. It's YOUR lives,YOUR homes that are in danger!!
I live by Bountiful High and it is utter mayhem here. Houses have been completely destroyed. Looks like a tornado just went through a trailer park! All of the neighbors are in the street in a state of bewilderment and nobody can hear a thing from the blast. There's fallout dropping from the sky and it's so thick in the air that you cannot see the sun (is today a cloudy day or is it just the fallout?).
Suddenly my windows shook violent as a loud bang hit the house.
Living on the flight path for Hill, I looked north, not south. And since it was too short for an earthquake, I promptly ignored it and went back to cleaning.
Only after reading the news did I connect the dots.
@chibiamy - Roger, you live in an Earthquake zone. Matbe you could leave this state for a SAFE area, where nothing can threaten you! I'll bet you are that person who always sees the "SKY FALLING"!
Are you really that small minded to compare the horrible safety record of a refinery to an earthquake?
Take a look around the homes that have been built in the area. These are nice homes. We have nice neighbors. We take pride in this area, and NO ONE should have to feel threatened in your own home by a refinery that has serious safety issues.
Are you really saying that the multiple explosions by this ONE refinery should not be dealt with?
I truly worry about the comments here. Support refineries. Support cheaper gas. Fine whatever, but give me a break. There is a reason Silver Eagle is under federeal investigation for not being safe. I thnk it is unfortunate that as a state cannot support one another's communities. I do not want Silver Eagle in your backyard or anyone elses. They have proven they cannot be trusted.
There is a difference between complaining just to complain and keeping your family safe. Our community has the right to hold them accountable for their consistently poor safety record. They NEED TO GO!
Time to start petitions and talk to our cities leaders to get all the refinerys out. We have four refinerys all within 10 miles of each other! Not only are they unsafe but They are one of the major causes of our polution in the valley... Who is with me?
@susmalia - I'm with ya. Only a matter of time before there will be a catastrophic accident at one of the refineries. Look at the level of kids with asthma that live in South Davis County its off the charts when compared to the rest of the country. Get those refineries out.
@susmalia - The refineries are essential to our economy. We have few enough in the US. They can be safe. When Obama, Reid and Pelosi are through with us and the US collapses Utah is going to be able to be energy independent. It has all the energy resources it needs to survive. The towns surrounding the refineries need to get serious about safety. They have the right to demand safe operations. Obviously what the refineries are doing now is not working. How aften are all the pipes and hoses and machinery being thoroughly tested and checked? Obviously the checks or frequencies are not adequate.
@susmalia - They are not all unsafe. SE has a rough history, but the other refineries do a lot to prevent things like this. It is actually more dangerous to drive around town than live near a refinery. And your driving creates more pollution than refineries. All those flares you see burn off chemicals so they don't enter the air. Your car doesn't do that.
Plus, our gas prices are cheaper here because we live right next to the source.
And our refineries bring a lot of jobs and money to the area. Would you really petition thousands of people out of jobs, including my family? Something has to be done about SE, but you can't just close down all the plants because of your fear.
@susmalia - Out of work is better than loss of life. How many chances are you willing to give Silver Eagle? 7? 8? In 2005 in Texas a similar refinery killed 14 people and seriously injured 100 people. Are their lives worth cheaper gas?
If they had a strong history of safety that could be a valid point, but Silver Eagle has USED UP ALL OF THERE CHANCES!!
@susmalia - I said I agree that something has to be done about SE. My husband used to work there and got out for this very reason. But, closing down all the plants doesn't make sense.
@susmalia - Ya susmalia good luck with that one! Do you know how much tax revenue they get from these refineries??? How many jobs they give to our community? I'm sure these Refineries were in this Valley long before you were! If you don't like it, get out!!! Maybe you should have taken a long look around your surroundings before you chose to live here!!!
@susmalia - I admit I do love cheap gas, and I don't want people to lose there jobs either. But last Jan. I was told I had to leave my home and be evacuated and then with the explosion today, can anyone tell me what is being done to ensure my safety.
My dad worked at one of the refineries for 32 years. As he got closer to retirement, he said he was worried about things like this happening because the refineries were more often hiring people who had no experience with college degrees that ran the refinery from what a book said vs. listening to the old hands who had the experience. Guess my dad was right that we'd start seeing these problems.
Just a side note, one of the boilers at the larger refineries going up has the potential to take out almost all of woods cross, rose park, and other surrounding areas. There's a reason they say "safety first" folks.
We live in Layton and my power flickered, then the house shook and I was scared we were having an earthquake...scary stuff! I quickly dismissed it though because of how close we are to base! Hopefully everyone's home will be fixed soon! Good luck all..
There are a bunch of tards working at that refinery. Believe me, I know, my dad knows who some of them are, and he confirmed! Plus it's pretty obvious, they are constantly blowing things up over there!
I know a lot of people are joking about feeling it so far away, but I just had to add my two cents.
I live on the south end of Main street in Layton in a 2010 travel trailer. The trains and jets from the base constently shake my trailer and have overwhelming noises. Honestly, I did hear it and it sounded like someone blew up the mobile home community next to me and I thought my trailer was going to tip over. My dog was going crazy and shaking from it. Totally crazy.
My home is near Woods Cross High School. I was in my bathroom getting ready for a shower when the explosion happened. The bathroom window was open and the force of the blast slammed my bathroom door shut and the power in the house cut out. I didn't know what had just happened. A friend called and asked if we were ok. I asked if she heard it. They live about 4 miles away in North Salt Lake and said they felt the explosion and looked outside and saw the smoke and the flames.
@Tressa R. - What's ironic is that after the explosion, when I got today's mail, I had a letter from Silver Eagle refinery announcing an open house next week to "provide residents with information regarding the Refinery's operations, and safety and environmental processes and initiatives, and to answer questions residents might have regarding the Refinery."
I imagine this open house will have a very different mood than what they initially expected!
The real problem here is to maintain the plant and maintain production to meet demand. These problems just underscore the lack of refining capacity in this country. The danger to communities and national security is caused by those who put up as many roadblocks as they can to increasing this capacity and lowering the danger from these aging plants.
When I was walking toward Bountiful High, I suddenly felt the shockwave of the explosion at 9:10am. then I heard at the school, some teachers reported to me that the power went out at the school near the end of 1st period (8:50am). My biology teacher said that the lights flickered on and off. I called my dad, we live near mueller park canyon, he said that he heard all the windows shake. i felt like i was in an earthquake.
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@Hawk Blade - It shook my whole body like I was being beaten by an invisible yetti at 9:09:58am (MST). And then i realized it WAS an invisible yetti. I used my cellphone camera to capture the moment, but all I got was a sound. This is what is sounded like: "eeeRRRHHHHAAAaaaahhHHHaaaAAAAA"
@sakalava47 - The city of Woods Cross is the entity that approved the land for building inside the blast zone. You can look it up. Look at the refineries both North and South and you will see no res building there. Holly purchased a bunch of houses near their's and demo'd them in the past. Drive up 1100 west and you can still see the foundations.
We will see much litigation now with Woods Cross and the refineries vs. homeowners.
Cassie --I would gladly move away from all the republicans and refinarys in Davis county. Ive lived in 2 of the most cleanist cities in the world and wish I could go back but unfortunately Im stuck living near you. But isnt the real issue being lost in your comment. Safety and a clean enviornment comes first not jobs and where I live....oh and btw....I dont know what you pay in taxes but mine are outrageous!!
Residents nearby Silver Eagle received a written invitation to come to a town meeting. They want to talk to neighboring residents about safety at their plant.
Strange, it almost seems as if they planned the explosion to get a good turn out at the neighborhood meeting.
@MRC - Maybe the residents near the refinery should have used some better judgment and not built so close. This is the same problem as those who build high on the hill and then complain because the mountain above is washing down on top of them.
I live right next to exit 315. About a mile away. I was just barely waking up when there was this HUGE boom and the entire house shook! My first thought was either sonic boom or explosion.
People sit and complain about how there houses and garages got damaged, well big deal try having a father or a grandfather or a brother or a cousin working there sorry but material things can be fixed and replaced but there lives cant! Non of you had the feeling off loss of a loved one when you heard that boom or you house shook. Maybe the news should care about that instead of some garage that got bent or a window that got broke that an every other day situation could have done! Try focusing on the workers and if everyone is okay and not hurt bad or even dead. IF you didnt want to live by a refinery than why did you move in this area LOOK AROUND !!! from Nsl to Bntfl your surrounded!! so move !! quit complaining about material things!
However, extending your "why do you live there" argument, if you (or your family member) didn't want to work at a refinery, why did you apply for a job there?
@Morghan F - Morghan... I don't think that people are so much concerned about living next to a refinery. The concern is the track record silver eagle has. I do think that if the explosion would have happened in the evening when more residents are home there would have been fatalities.
Obviously those peole that your so concerned about losing their job are not doing their job and putting the public in jeapordy. A leaking pipe is not hard to find when it is above ground.
@Morghan F - I second Morghan's main point of being more concerned about the people instead of the material things. The refinery has insurance and people will get their homes repaired. Those are replaceable. But people aren't. A few of the workers (my ex-family and friends) were thrown across the road and rooms with this blast. Hair was singed and there are possible broken bones. But, I'm so grateful that everyone was okay.
I'm in Layton, I felt it. It was enough to wake me up. Had me a bit startled and confused for a while there; the last time I was woken up by that kind of sound was with the recent HAFB detonations, and I couldn't recall any reports about there being more.
For all those who are saying that the people shouldn't have built their houses close to a refinery- you are probably right- however, accidents can happen anywhere.
There can be mudslides if you are too high on the hill, there can be train accidents if you live by the train tracks, there can be other various things that happen wherever you live. Accidents happen everywhere!
These people built their homes about 6 years ago- before any major things had ever happened at the Silver Eagle Refinery. I lived in the area up until about 4 years ago. I know the woman that had some of the most extensive damage. I know the people in the neighborhood. They knew the risks of living near a refinery. Let's be sensitive to their losses. Thank goodness no one is hurt-That is truly amazing they are okay!
@randomthoughts33 - Don't build on the mountain then. Don't build next to train tracks. Don't build in a swamp. Don't build in a flood zone. Be smart about where you are living and then you won't have these problems.
If you put yourself in a situation with bad consequences most people won't give you sympathy. If you play with fire then you will eventually lose.
@randomthoughts33 - randomthoughts you are correct. Accidents can happen anywhere. However, next to a refinery there are chemicals, fires and common sense says that more than likely it is not going to be a safe place. Since an accident can happen at anytime.
I lived in wood side homes last year we moved after the last explosion when they evacuated us from our home. My son had serious breathing problems went into emergency surgery into his lungs ect... They found nothing we moved to farmington my son has not been sick since. The air is terrable down there!!1 That refinery is going to have more problems and the next is going to be worse if it does not get shut down!
@2common - 2common,
Shutting down any refinery does not solve anything. South Davis County has a number of Refineries. People should make better choices for themselves and their families. If its not one refinery it would or could be another.
I live over at across from the apple gas staion in some apartments and it freaked me out.
On a rediculous note I checked my mail today and I got a letter from silver eagle for an open house they are having there. There is no way I am stepping foot there for awhile.
@bwilliams1985 - I was outside walking and saw the explosion. I'm so going to the meeting! I just can;'t believe their luck that this happened the same day the letter got to people. At least it won't be at the refinery.
@bwilliams1985 - Next Thursday, November 12th from 7-9 PM. Its at the Legacy Charter School (can't remember the address, but its around 2200 south and 1250 west, I believe).
Its owned by a bunch of mexicans do the math people. if you can sell I would suggest getting the heck out of there ASAP. I also haul out of there when they are running and not having problems and for 15 years I hauled chemicals into it and BELIVE me you people dont know half of what goes on in this place!
So, how long do they get to keep exploding and blowing up before some sort of committee or regulatory group shuts them down or FORCES them to make the plant safe.
I don't recall any other refinery in Utah exploding and this one has done it twice this year!
I am getting tired of it (I live in Woods Cross in site of the refinery).
@Vaccanoll - Accidents happen. There have been agents there regularly since the last blast making SE come up to par. They are being forced to make the plant safe. The spots that blew up were totally unrelated and in different parts of the plant. It is just an awful accident and I'm so glad that everyone is okay.
@Vaccanoll - The refinery has been there for numerous years. If you don't like to live in fear MOVE!!!! It's as easy as that. You knew the refinery was there beforehand. Common sense goes a long way
We live in Foxboro North Community (Woodside Homes) off 1100 N and Redwood. The air is fine out there, and we haven't had a problem with it. So, 2common, I wonder what happened with you?
@Kerry B. - Not sure how you find it "inappropriate", I'm only saying that I haven't had any issues with the air when I live in the same place that 2common did.
i go to Legacy Prepatory Academy this skool is RIGHT next to the explosian... i was staring out the window wen i saw the ground come rumbling towards then i felt the roof shake... my teacher put her hand over her mouth and said... OH MY WORD!!! im the teachers assistant 4 that class... so later me and my teacher look out the door and saw all the teachers asking wat had happened!!! IT WAS A VERY EXCITING WED!!! :) i looked out the window down further and another refinery was on fire... :( not so good... BUT the firefigyhters did an awesome job at keeping the in control!!! THANK U!!! luckly the shock wave was headed east! ;)
@jessi smith - Teachers assistant huh? I hope it's not english!!! Nice spelling there! ha. I guess it's true, public schools are better... or should I say skool? lol
If anyone wants to go to the open house and voice your concerns with the plant people directly it is on Nov.12th at the Legacy Preparatory Academy at 2214 South 1250 West, woods cross.
Here's the schedule:
7-715pm sign in and refreshments
715-8pm formal presentation
8-845pm questions and answers
845-9pm experts and informational exhibits
I think the comments to shut the refinery done are utter nonsense. Do you people realize how many refineries have been built in the US since the 70's? Give you a hint, not many.
Risks are everywhere and in every vocation. Sure shut the place down, where are those people going to work? Gas still has to be produced for those 4 cars in your driveway and taxes have to be paid to educate your children.
I've had personal experience with the death of a family member in an industrial accident. Shutting the place down won't bring him back. Reality is, we all want the convenience of gas in our cars, gas in our homes, electric lights but we want none of what comes with it to provide it.
How many people were killed in refinery explosions in the last decade? Now look at how many people are killed in car accidents here in Utah. Be realistic. I live in the area and knew the risks when I bought my house. I feel for the people that did suffer the effects of today's accident. Thank heaven it was material goods that were hurt and not human. Kudo's to the fast action of the first responders. They are to be commended, as is Silver Eagle for having them have the training to handle such an emergency.
@reality1 - So you are saying that jobs or gas is more important that human life?
There are other refineries around us here in woods cross and I have no problem with them. But if a place keeps exploding then it is time to shut it down or FORCE it to become safe.
One or two explosions could be explained away, but this is becoming a regular thing up there.
There are other jobs, there are other places to make Gas. Silver Eagle is a small refinery after all, other can pick up the slack.
I know that they were here first and all that, but we are all here now, and they (Silver Eagle) need to start looking at their neighbors (the other refineries) and figure out a way to REALLY be safe, or they need to close down. (The other refineries do not explode.)
Side note about what Silver Eagle's PR guy said about comparing their OSHA infractions to neighboring refineries. That is just junk. To compare a tiny ding from OSHA to an explosion is stupid. What you need to compare is number of explosions, un-expected fires and damage to neighboring buildings.
True story; I was playing rainbow six this morning on the actual oil refinery level, and I threw a grenade just in time for the explosion...BOOM! I felt it even on the east side of B-town, for a sec I thought i was in the game, I almost instinctively ducked behind the couch and reached for my FAMAS...weird coincidence....(PS totally killed three terrorists with that blast.. "they killed him?! EFF you he was my friend!!")
Vaccanoll, I'm not saying that at all. What I am saying is there are risks in all things and we know it.
As I recall the blast in Jan was the result of contract workers smoking near gas. Somewhere in there....you gotta ask who was at fault.
As I said earlier, I KNOW FIRST HAND what it is like to bury someone because of this. I know what training my family member was required to have to do his job every day. Long story short??? It only takes ONE mistake, to die. It is easy for us to run our mouths about what should be done, but until we walk in their shoes, under go their training and face what they face, I think it is cheap of us to make assumptions.
@reality1 - I agree there are risks. Everything has risks. The other refineries around us have risks. But some how they MANAGE their risks and do not explode.
I am not knocking the workers here. And I am very sympathetic to your experiences that give you first hand knowledge of situations like this. What I am trying to say is that THIS refinery's track record is significantly stacked against them. They need to truly reform and fix that place up so that they don't explode anymore or they need to be done.
I agree that one mistake can cause an accident that leads to the death of one or many. We all face situations like that every day. Heck, just driving on the freeway we are all in extremely heavy vehicles that are moving at fast speeds. One mistake can (and often does) cost lives.
Just like in my driving example, I am not saying that we should close all the refineries (ie stop all driving) just because of an accident. But we should do the equivalent of taking away Silver Eagle's driving license due to so many "reckless driving" infractions.
Somehow the product leaked out? Somehow? Well to quote Mitt Romney, who quoted someone else, "Oil refineries are heaps of rust held together with paint. Maybe that explains it.
ATTENTION WX RESIDENTS: MOVE MOVE MOVE. Unless you enjoy breathing motor oil and methane fumes and like getting cancer.
We live about 1000 yards from Silver, Not any damage here but the windows did shake, Was in draper when it happend and only seen a black cloud, And FYI Holly is the only plant in Utah that has a propain pit, So for those of you who think this is funny and a joke, It's not!
i live bout 1 block from refinery it shook my house a little and power went off for bout 5 sec my friend from arizona said «removed»was that? and i calmly said oh that? thats just the refinery blowing up!!! happens every couple of months or so and he said oh ... ok
Dave McSwain claims only about 10 homes have damage WHAT A CROCK it's more like 50+ granted most damage is grarage doors buckled but that is still damage
Channel 4 posted this message to their site so I thought you may want to know.
UTAH RESIDENTS WHOSE HOMES MAY HAVE BEEN DAMAGED BY THE SILVER EAGLE REFINERY EXPLOSION ON WEDNESDAY CAN CALL BELFOR DISASTER CLEANUP AT 801-936-1212 FOR ASSISTANCE. IF A HOME WAS DAMAGED BY THE SILVER EAGLE REFINERY EXPLOSION, SILVER EAGLE WILL PAY FOR THE SERVICE.
Several things here to say. First, I have NOT read all of the comments posted, only about every third or fourth one because there are now over 300 of them. Second, most of you will be upset about what I say, but that's all right because sometimes the truth hurts! However, I will point out some things that most intelligent, half educated, reasonable people have little if any difficulty with understanding. Those that do will be making the noise you hear while reading this.
Over 50 years ago, these little refineries sat right where they are smelling up the countryside and lighting up the night sky with their glowing red "burn-off" torches twinkling. No one lived next to these refineries....even the rabbits, foxes, and an occasional coyote or a badger had moved on and away from these stinking fire breathing Giants of tanks and pipes. The only people around them were the folks actually engaged in the processes going on there. Everyone else stayed away......for GOOD Reason.
Then came the idiots that found "cheap" ground to build houses on for other idiots that are unable to sense danger and thought the "critters" were NUTS for leaving such a "nice place" so for that and other un-known reasons got their new home up against these Behemoths! The Danger has always been about the same level....since the beginning of life for these refineries. It appears that some of the "Natural Selection" process encompasses the ability for certain persons to make stupid decisions and ignore what most folks understand to be.....COMMON Sense! Oh, I suddenly got it! Your Mother forget to teach you about Fire! The real Fun part is just beginning. The next thing is to "Rebuild in Place" those damaged homes. What does it take, Folks? Do you have to be Blown Completely Up to realize your mistake? There isn't enough Money or anything else you could give me to live next to one of those Nasty Black Refineries, but then, to Each His Own!
@Paul A. - You're absolutely right Paul A. Those refinerys are not making ice-cream, they are making fuel for everyones SUV, monster truck, car etc. It's a necessary evil until we can figure out how to make them run on daisys and clover.
@Paul A. - That was a major pastime when we were kids...watching the refineries blow up. Even if the refineries relocated , according the the WX Civil Defense maps, some of the trains pass through with a "rolling" 5-mile blast-zone just waiting to happen. There's danger in most places...just pick a place you love and try to be safe.
Maybe you should check your facts before posting like an idiot. There are many homes in the area (mostly farm homes) that were there before the refineries.
Additionally, the release of gases and chemicals affects the whole valley.
So, you think it is okay for them to have a unsafe business if they were there first (which they were not)?
@Paul A. - I must be an idiot in your book, Paul A.
My parents built in WX 43 years ago, a block and a half east of the SE refinery and in those 43 years there have been small incidents, but nothing like the last 5 years. We built a new home in the neighborhood just east of the refinery 6 years ago knowing that this refinery is there and that to date, the safety record was pretty good. I am sure I can speak for most of the residents in our neighborhood when I say; we don't want the refinery to move away. They employee our friends and neighbors. They bring a good tax base to the city which in turn keeps my taxes down. What we do want is for the refinery to rebuild, to be safe and clean, and be productive. This refinery is close to 50 years old. It makes one wonder how old some of the pipeing is, and is that part of the problems we are seeing. Is there a lack of true refinery knowledge employeeed there - hands on smart vs book smart?
There are inherant risks of living anywhere on this rock. Pick a place you love, call it home and pray for your neighbors and families safety.
Woods Cross is a GREAT community and there is no reason to think it can't and shouldn't be a safe one.
Yes paul you are right choosing to live next to a refinery you would have to expect a certain level of danger. However, withing the last six months between Holly and Silver Eagle there have been multiple explosions and leaks and problems with these refineries.
What is scary is this was a relatively small explosion, that really only damaged homes nearby. However, if a larger explosion were to happen it would level a four mile radius around the refinery. Now you can not honestly tell me that fifty years ago there was nothing around for four miles.
I think that the refineries are getting sloppy with their standers of safety, and cutting corners to save money in this economy. You can not tell me it is a coincidence that all of a sudden the economy is horrible, and these two places all of a sudden have multiple safety problems.
@harleyquinn - Some of the problems are related to the fact that these old refineries are maxed out on production compared to how they were originally designed. New refineries are nearly impossible to build because of all the requirements or should i say restrictions placed on them. Brand new technology would help but where could a new refinery be built? Nobody wants one for a neighbor! But we love to drive...
@harleyquinn - You might be right, but what evidence do you have? There is always going to be a certain level of risk with a refinery. I think we need to wait for better more and better information before we start pointing fingers.
This is what happens when you allow for the Wild West (Leadership decisions making that is solely driven by Populism). We get upset when government regulates and makes developers jump through hoops in order to develop a section of land. However, this is what can happen when populist leaders get into office and allow developers to develop on flood plains, gravel pits, fault lines, ("blast zones") etc. I do not know this for a fact, but I would bet that for years responsible leaders did not allow certain sections of land to be developed and the leader that eventually allowed for the development simply ignored the safety precaution and caved to popular demand.
We live 300 yards from where the explosion hit this morning. I wish I could say I was surprised...maybe for a split second, but then I KNEW it was Silver Eagle refinary blowing up, yet again. We have lived in our home for 6 years and have had an explosion 4 times. The best part to this story?...guess what came to all of Woods Cross residents mailboxes today? A letter from Silver Eagle Refining announcing an open house to all of us to come and learn all about how great they are and how they have fixed past safety issues. OH THE IRONY OF IT ALL!
When I worked for a home builder, I would often see diagrams of concentric circles surrounding places like this refinery, Kennecott, Hill Air Force Base and other volatile places. The circles represented the kill zones if one of these places was attacked or ever exploded. The first circle, usually right around the facility and about 10 blocks out, was the immediate kill zone with 100% fatality. Every circle outward had a certain percentage of deaths, amount of destruction and so on. I would sometimes stand there, in awe, of which subdivisions were allowed to build within the first three circles.
I feel bad for the homeowners but have no feelings for those who build and sell homes in these kill zones.
Something you would see in Russia or China, not here.
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@Eniac - Wow...Scary. Now im really going to petition to get them out...maybe Ill move to NZ instead. I wonder how many times this will all have to happen before the public finaly says enough is enough!
@Eniac - I assume susmalia, you will also stop driving your car any using any refined oil products in protest? No?? Well then, you are the one that should move and leave this refinery alone! It was there long before you.
It should be the residential area that has to move because they encroached on what was probably a safety zone that Silver Eagle had. It’s pretty obvious that the refinery was there before the houses went in. While we are at it, let’s put the responsibility where it should be; on the home owners and probably Woods Cross city council. Someone approved that land for residential use and it more than likely wasn’t Silver Eagle.
Let’s face it folks, when you knowingly buy a house that is only hundreds of feet from a refinery, you have to accept the chance that something like this could happen. This goes for people that move next to an military installation, industrial parks, airports, etc.
I was in my kitchen cleaning a dish, I dont know if that will help in the investigation, but I was shoeless and was cleaning a dish when it happened, hope this made the investigation more clear.
maybe some zoning in utah would be nice. I don't know. I think that having homes with refineries this close is a little ridiculous. Why is it cool to have homes so close to an industrial area that there homes are being so effected. It is so Utah to have those kind of problems.
@Big Dog Mom - It is NOT OSHA's job to "fix their problems." It is the EMPLOYER's job to identify and correct/control hazards in their work place in order to protect their employees. There are recognized OSHA standards that directly apply to refineries and these entities are WELL aware of them. It is OSHA's job to enforce applicable safety and health standards during an onsite inspection. If you would like to see Silver Eagle's OSHA inspection history, go here:
http://www.osha.gov/oshstats/index.html
Go to "Establishment Search" and type in Silver Eagle. Start your search in January 2000 and specify the Utah office.
This refinery must be shotdown for good,or relocated.For you who made comment and tried to sound and looked funny.Really just one question,DO YOU REALIZE what are joking with?That explosion could easy kill lot of people in the area close by refinery,but miracle saved their homes from collapsing and fatalities.Did you watch comment of mr.Smart «no swearing please».president of refinery,He calls on 4news at ten last night,So far is safe,What s up with 3 explosion and fires in last 2 years,who is responsible for that?Maybe blue skies or himself,mr.Smart «no swearing please».I think people from that neighborhood needs to start petition for Dislocation on immediate basis,that Dangerous refinery.No people needs to be kept working,but in SAFE workplace.Governor and Utah Attorney needs to take immediate action.Who planned to even build refineries in city.Rocky and Leavit?Whoever made that decision needs to be as well acountable for this case.Refinery needs to be shotdown asap and also dislocated elsewhere.NOT to be in city.
The president of Silver Eagle refinery Lied on camera saying "nothing like this has happened before". This is not true! This is the second time THIS YEAR, there has been a fire or explosion at the refinery. The print story mentioned a "blast zone" and speculated on the wisdom of allowing homes to be built so close to the refinery. I'm sure the city will have to answer for all that. I don't really care about that at this moment. If this company can't operate safely in this community it should be shut down! Silver Eagle does not deserve another chance if they can't go even 1 year without an accident. What is next? a blast that kills a city resident? is that the last chance? I was home yesterday enjoying a day off when the power went off, all the air was sucked out of my home and I heard a deafening blast. I evacuated. When I got back home last night there was a letter from the president of Silver eagle inviting me to a community open house to address the LAST safety incident. How appropriate. Get out Silver Eagle. Get out.
Folks, next time you go "looking" for a great real estate deal, instead of looking just at price, look at WHY the "price" is so good.(like a refinery within spitting distance)
Or instead of being apathetic, you can demand answers from your elected officials, as to WHY they approved residential building so close to a known hazard/emergency blast area.
Or, you can be completely unrealistic and demand that the refinery "move" some place else, where the apathetic voters, and cheap real estate hucksters will do the same thing there.
Just how many people in Davis County actually voted on Tuesday? Hardly any, very typical, very apathetic, and the politicians that make the zoning rules know that. Don't like all the houses next to refineries? Fire the politicians who approve the zoning regulations,variancea and changes.
my dad works at the refinery across the street... and I called my mom to have her bring me some money for a trip i'm going on and she told my what happened and i was freaking out!!! but then she told me that my dad was ok... but it was still scary!! but i'm really glad that no one got hurt...
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Oh, wait, that may have been something else.
I live in Lake Tahoe, the whole lake shook.
I thought the world was coming to an end.
I’ve never been so frightened in my life!
I'm not a coward I've just never been tested. I'd like to think that if I was I would pass.
Good judgment comes with experience. Unfortunately, experience usually comes from bad judgment.
Good judgment comes with experience. Unfortunately, experience usually comes from bad judgment.
I'm not a coward I've just never been tested. I'd like to think that if I was I would pass.
Beautifully subtle 10/10
@ LeDuc
That's what she said.
Banhammer of the mods crits you for over 9000!!!
We are alive we are warriors.
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I don't mind if you vote disagree, just tell me why.
Just a side note, one of the boilers at the larger refineries going up has the potential to take out almost all of woods cross, rose park, and other surrounding areas. There's a reason they say "safety first" folks.
if they aren't funny - then why do we allow them to exist?
and if they are funny - why aren't their comedians that are old....
hmmmm..... while i do agree that they are funny - i believe it would be better for our economy (and it would kind of be like a last joke) if we just didn't allow them to exist anymore.
so let's kill 'em - we can still get our laughs, and unemployment will improve greatly.
AS AN ADDED BONUS - no more crazy old people driving on the road.
talk about heaven - we'd already be there.
You can take my guns mr president after you pry it from my cold dead hands!
Five Names on KsL I will try and be nice this time! NOT !
I would stay and bring out your marshmallows.
I'd rather be in Texas.
Silver Eagle said it was working with the fire department to determine exactly what happened and what information would be released to the public.
Would be released to the public? i wonder just what the "would not' release to the public
I want the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth...it is the way it needs to be
Makes me feel like shooting someone... with gumdrops.
It's like Martha Stewart polishing the brass on the Titanic, it's all goin down man...
JHL Constuction Inc. General Contracting services***
Safety First!
So live it up while you can!
Makes me feel like shooting someone... with gumdrops.
Whatever happened, I hope that everyone is OK.
more like EXPLODING NEWS!
So did RFH have Mark Shurtleff in studio to talk about the reasons behind his suspending his campaign? Oh, that's right! X96 listeners don't know how to vote, so they wouldn't care about news that has a far reaching, long term impact on Utah. They just care about fire, explosions, and rock and roll (is that what they play on X96 now - or is it more like MTV where is it just whiny teenagers complaining about life?)
Good judgment comes with experience. Unfortunately, experience usually comes from bad judgment.
Just because you can - doesn't mean you should.
Just because you can - doesn't mean you should.
hope everyones ok.
Good judgment comes with experience. Unfortunately, experience usually comes from bad judgment.
now back to my grain based mild drink.
~~~I Am Fortunate To Live, Walk & Breathe Among The Bravest Of Heroes...I Am A Proud Navy Wife & Navy Mom~~~
I live in North Centerville on the bench. It was scary.
Another miracle!
I'm not a coward I've just never been tested. I'd like to think that if I was I would pass.
Purrdee happy in Utah!!! But honestly wishin' it were Montana or Alaska.
One good thing about Alzheimers...you get to meet new people everyday!
One good thing about Alzheimers...you get to meet new people everyday!
One good thing about Alzheimers...you get to meet new people everyday!
One good thing about Alzheimers...you get to meet new people everyday!
“Whether you think you can, or that you can't, you are usually right.“ Henry Ford
Thanks to RFH for your up to date reporting!
Woods Cross loves you Silver Eagle, we'd just love you more if you were on the other side of the lake...
There was no fire when I walked out. Just flames coming out of a smokestack. The normal stuff but with a bit extra.
“Whether you think you can, or that you can't, you are usually right.“ Henry Ford
BIG DEAL!
BTW - X-96 RFH RAWKS!
slcgramps
You sir are quite the person.......
~Levi
We now have a school behind this death trap. Why should we keep playing Russian Roulette with the lives of our kids?
Woods Cross City will you do anything to protect us, or just keep allowing this to happen? Enough is Enough! Stop bending over backwards for the nasty refineries and start taking action to protect your community.
Silver Eagles fire brigade did an AWESOME job!! Way to go boys! Keep in mind while you worry about the schools near by, we at home get to worry about OUR fire fighters who are fighting the fire down there. They all have families to go home to tonight too. Good thing they know what they are doing… training well worth the money!
Are you willing to fund it? Do you have any idea what the cost would be?
Just like those that live in the area knew what they were getting themselves into so did the firefighters.
Just think though, they are willing to put their lives on the line to keep the community safe...
If a restaurant breaks health violations they can be shut down, EVEN IF THEY WERE THERE BEFORE THE RESIDENTS! We are not powerless to careless refineries that have now CAUSED MULTIPLE EXPLOSIONS.
If a child died, would you tell the parents to move? Is our faults for trying to find an affordable homes, assuming the finery would not explode in our backyards? What would you say to Tim Harter who was severely burned by the last explosion in JAN of THIS YEAR? Sorry pal you knew the risks.
Silver Eagle is a predator to our community. It is sad they have such strong support.
Considering that I have numerous family members that work there, Tim did know the possibilities of being injured on the job. But it is no different than if he were to work on a construction site or work at Wendy’s. Every job comes with that possibility. It was just a few days ago that Tesoro experienced something of the same nature. The refineries are working together to be better prepared for these types of emergencies. Don’t get your feathers all ruffled. Its not like they plan these fires & explosions, it’s the nature of the industry.
However I am sure if there wasn’t gas & diesel you’d complain too. So until everyone can walk to work, be grateful we have these companies to provide fuel for us so you can live in that affordable home you speak of.
Are you REALLY ok with this? All the explosions, all the mishaps. SE is currently under investigation for their INCREDIBLY poor safety record. They will probably be shut down regardless, but what I find sad is you defend this carelessness that could get someone killed.
I am fairly certain all those people you know who work at SE, deserve to be safe as well.
If a construction worker is constantly given faulty equipment and that equipment causes his death is that REALLY just part of the job? I mean new equipment costs money right? And we are in a down economy.
Come on people open your eyes. Think big picture. SE has had chance after chance after chance.
They are not above community outrage.
There is a very good reason the houses are affordable near the refineries. If they weren't there...you would be unable to afford a home there.
It seems they were able to put the fire out. I haven't heard of any injuries especially from nearby residents that are commenting...so it seems they have done a good job of keeping people safe.
The "nasty" refineries are the ones that pay enough taxes to provide roads and schools in your area plus quite a few elsewhere.
As others have stated...if it bothers you that they are/were there...move.
If you are not living on the edge, you're taking up too much space.....
slcgramps
If you are not living on the edge, you're taking up too much space.....
Then we have you to blame?
Did you report the problems to OSHA?
Did you even attempt to "go public" with the incriminating evidence you have had for how many years?
If this company is so corrupt and unsafe WHY did you work for them for so long? If they are that bad...."all it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing".
WHY did YOU do nothing?
I was NOT trying to downplay or diminish the very real possibility that evacuation could have been necessary.
The whole house fell over and then somehow sprang back up! I have never seen it shake like that before!!
~~~I Am Fortunate To Live, Walk & Breathe Among The Bravest Of Heroes...I Am A Proud Navy Wife & Navy Mom~~~
I'm not a coward I've just never been tested. I'd like to think that if I was I would pass.
I'm not a coward I've just never been tested. I'd like to think that if I was I would pass.
I was 3 to 4 miles away and I felt it strongly.
I'm not a coward I've just never been tested. I'd like to think that if I was I would pass.
I'm getting sick and tired of you whinners complaining about the refineries! WHO ELSE IS GOING TO MAKE GAS SO YOU CAN DRIVE YOUR @#$@^*& CARS AROUND???
That being said Silver Eagle has no excuse for so many incidents. Other refineries do a lot better job but good job for getting the fire put out so quickly!
You people could do nothing without consuming Gasoline! There were here first, don't live by one if you are scared.
Any other idiots who think it would be a good idea to get rid of the refineries???
Idiot!
The surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that it has never tried to contact us!
*not making fun of mobile homes, or trailers, or modular homes. Just the name "Camelot"...
your about the tenth person to post something like that thinking it's hilarious... you my friend im voting unfunny
Thank you so much for making a 2 minute story cover the 25 minutes of airtime that was supposed to be a live performance by Michael Buble on Rachel Ray's show. Now every woman in Utah can be mad at you instead of me for a change. Wahooooo! Who wants to join me for Mai Tai's!
I'm not a coward I've just never been tested. I'd like to think that if I was I would pass.
I live in Foxboro in North Salt Lake and it Shook the house almost to the equivelent of the 1994 Northridge earthquake in California( That was a fun one to ride out)
thinkin I should move. I live in the Mobile Home Park east of Silver Eagle, and let me tell ya these tin cans can't take much more. And when this happens we seem to be forgotten.
Toodles
It always looks the darkest before it turns pitch black.
Got my mail today. Silver Eagle Refinery inviting me to an open house so they can answer all my safety concerns Thursday Nov 12. Can't wait to go to that open house and hear how safe I am.
WoodsCross City, Mayor Kent Parry please, shut these guys down before they kill someone. They have a terrible safety record.
Run for your lives!
But, then, I have a sense of humor and I understand and appreciate satire.
Suddenly my windows shook violent as a loud bang hit the house.
Living on the flight path for Hill, I looked north, not south. And since it was too short for an earthquake, I promptly ignored it and went back to cleaning.
Only after reading the news did I connect the dots.
Are you really that small minded to compare the horrible safety record of a refinery to an earthquake?
Take a look around the homes that have been built in the area. These are nice homes. We have nice neighbors. We take pride in this area, and NO ONE should have to feel threatened in your own home by a refinery that has serious safety issues.
Are you really saying that the multiple explosions by this ONE refinery should not be dealt with?
I truly worry about the comments here. Support refineries. Support cheaper gas. Fine whatever, but give me a break. There is a reason Silver Eagle is under federeal investigation for not being safe. I thnk it is unfortunate that as a state cannot support one another's communities. I do not want Silver Eagle in your backyard or anyone elses. They have proven they cannot be trusted.
There is a difference between complaining just to complain and keeping your family safe. Our community has the right to hold them accountable for their consistently poor safety record. They NEED TO GO!
Plus, our gas prices are cheaper here because we live right next to the source.
And our refineries bring a lot of jobs and money to the area. Would you really petition thousands of people out of jobs, including my family? Something has to be done about SE, but you can't just close down all the plants because of your fear.
If they had a strong history of safety that could be a valid point, but Silver Eagle has USED UP ALL OF THERE CHANCES!!
Just a side note, one of the boilers at the larger refineries going up has the potential to take out almost all of woods cross, rose park, and other surrounding areas. There's a reason they say "safety first" folks.
I live on the south end of Main street in Layton in a 2010 travel trailer. The trains and jets from the base constently shake my trailer and have overwhelming noises. Honestly, I did hear it and it sounded like someone blew up the mobile home community next to me and I thought my trailer was going to tip over. My dog was going crazy and shaking from it. Totally crazy.
I imagine this open house will have a very different mood than what they initially expected!
Don't Hesitate! When the time comes, just act! - Wolf O' Donnell
We will see much litigation now with Woods Cross and the refineries vs. homeowners.
Then you will be free to choose where to live.
Strange, it almost seems as if they planned the explosion to get a good turn out at the neighborhood meeting.
I'm glad no one was hurt.
However, extending your "why do you live there" argument, if you (or your family member) didn't want to work at a refinery, why did you apply for a job there?
Obviously those peole that your so concerned about losing their job are not doing their job and putting the public in jeapordy. A leaking pipe is not hard to find when it is above ground.
There can be mudslides if you are too high on the hill, there can be train accidents if you live by the train tracks, there can be other various things that happen wherever you live. Accidents happen everywhere!
These people built their homes about 6 years ago- before any major things had ever happened at the Silver Eagle Refinery. I lived in the area up until about 4 years ago. I know the woman that had some of the most extensive damage. I know the people in the neighborhood. They knew the risks of living near a refinery. Let's be sensitive to their losses. Thank goodness no one is hurt-That is truly amazing they are okay!
If you put yourself in a situation with bad consequences most people won't give you sympathy. If you play with fire then you will eventually lose.
Shutting down any refinery does not solve anything. South Davis County has a number of Refineries. People should make better choices for themselves and their families. If its not one refinery it would or could be another.
On a rediculous note I checked my mail today and I got a letter from silver eagle for an open house they are having there. There is no way I am stepping foot there for awhile.
X
I don't recall any other refinery in Utah exploding and this one has done it twice this year!
I am getting tired of it (I live in Woods Cross in site of the refinery).
There are 3 refineries near where I live. All of them quite close. I only have issues with the one that keeps blowing up.
I think that once a business starts exploding on a regular basis, the "I was here first" argument goes out the window.
Would you be ok if your neighbor started having explosions and then told you "I was here first"?
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Risks are everywhere and in every vocation. Sure shut the place down, where are those people going to work? Gas still has to be produced for those 4 cars in your driveway and taxes have to be paid to educate your children.
I've had personal experience with the death of a family member in an industrial accident. Shutting the place down won't bring him back. Reality is, we all want the convenience of gas in our cars, gas in our homes, electric lights but we want none of what comes with it to provide it.
How many people were killed in refinery explosions in the last decade? Now look at how many people are killed in car accidents here in Utah. Be realistic. I live in the area and knew the risks when I bought my house. I feel for the people that did suffer the effects of today's accident. Thank heaven it was material goods that were hurt and not human. Kudo's to the fast action of the first responders. They are to be commended, as is Silver Eagle for having them have the training to handle such an emergency.
Thank you for your realistic view. You are absolutely correct with everything you have stated.
There are other refineries around us here in woods cross and I have no problem with them. But if a place keeps exploding then it is time to shut it down or FORCE it to become safe.
One or two explosions could be explained away, but this is becoming a regular thing up there.
There are other jobs, there are other places to make Gas. Silver Eagle is a small refinery after all, other can pick up the slack.
I know that they were here first and all that, but we are all here now, and they (Silver Eagle) need to start looking at their neighbors (the other refineries) and figure out a way to REALLY be safe, or they need to close down. (The other refineries do not explode.)
Side note about what Silver Eagle's PR guy said about comparing their OSHA infractions to neighboring refineries. That is just junk. To compare a tiny ding from OSHA to an explosion is stupid. What you need to compare is number of explosions, un-expected fires and damage to neighboring buildings.
As I recall the blast in Jan was the result of contract workers smoking near gas. Somewhere in there....you gotta ask who was at fault.
As I said earlier, I KNOW FIRST HAND what it is like to bury someone because of this. I know what training my family member was required to have to do his job every day. Long story short??? It only takes ONE mistake, to die. It is easy for us to run our mouths about what should be done, but until we walk in their shoes, under go their training and face what they face, I think it is cheap of us to make assumptions.
I am not knocking the workers here. And I am very sympathetic to your experiences that give you first hand knowledge of situations like this. What I am trying to say is that THIS refinery's track record is significantly stacked against them. They need to truly reform and fix that place up so that they don't explode anymore or they need to be done.
I agree that one mistake can cause an accident that leads to the death of one or many. We all face situations like that every day. Heck, just driving on the freeway we are all in extremely heavy vehicles that are moving at fast speeds. One mistake can (and often does) cost lives.
Just like in my driving example, I am not saying that we should close all the refineries (ie stop all driving) just because of an accident. But we should do the equivalent of taking away Silver Eagle's driving license due to so many "reckless driving" infractions.
ATTENTION WX RESIDENTS: MOVE MOVE MOVE. Unless you enjoy breathing motor oil and methane fumes and like getting cancer.
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Over 50 years ago, these little refineries sat right where they are smelling up the countryside and lighting up the night sky with their glowing red "burn-off" torches twinkling. No one lived next to these refineries....even the rabbits, foxes, and an occasional coyote or a badger had moved on and away from these stinking fire breathing Giants of tanks and pipes. The only people around them were the folks actually engaged in the processes going on there. Everyone else stayed away......for GOOD Reason.
Then came the idiots that found "cheap" ground to build houses on for other idiots that are unable to sense danger and thought the "critters" were NUTS for leaving such a "nice place" so for that and other un-known reasons got their new home up against these Behemoths! The Danger has always been about the same level....since the beginning of life for these refineries. It appears that some of the "Natural Selection" process encompasses the ability for certain persons to make stupid decisions and ignore what most folks understand to be.....COMMON Sense! Oh, I suddenly got it! Your Mother forget to teach you about Fire! The real Fun part is just beginning. The next thing is to "Rebuild in Place" those damaged homes. What does it take, Folks? Do you have to be Blown Completely Up to realize your mistake? There isn't enough Money or anything else you could give me to live next to one of those Nasty Black Refineries, but then, to Each His Own!
Maybe you should check your facts before posting like an idiot. There are many homes in the area (mostly farm homes) that were there before the refineries.
Additionally, the release of gases and chemicals affects the whole valley.
So, you think it is okay for them to have a unsafe business if they were there first (which they were not)?
You are the defintion of moron.
My parents built in WX 43 years ago, a block and a half east of the SE refinery and in those 43 years there have been small incidents, but nothing like the last 5 years. We built a new home in the neighborhood just east of the refinery 6 years ago knowing that this refinery is there and that to date, the safety record was pretty good. I am sure I can speak for most of the residents in our neighborhood when I say; we don't want the refinery to move away. They employee our friends and neighbors. They bring a good tax base to the city which in turn keeps my taxes down. What we do want is for the refinery to rebuild, to be safe and clean, and be productive. This refinery is close to 50 years old. It makes one wonder how old some of the pipeing is, and is that part of the problems we are seeing. Is there a lack of true refinery knowledge employeeed there - hands on smart vs book smart?
There are inherant risks of living anywhere on this rock. Pick a place you love, call it home and pray for your neighbors and families safety.
Woods Cross is a GREAT community and there is no reason to think it can't and shouldn't be a safe one.
What is scary is this was a relatively small explosion, that really only damaged homes nearby. However, if a larger explosion were to happen it would level a four mile radius around the refinery. Now you can not honestly tell me that fifty years ago there was nothing around for four miles.
I think that the refineries are getting sloppy with their standers of safety, and cutting corners to save money in this economy. You can not tell me it is a coincidence that all of a sudden the economy is horrible, and these two places all of a sudden have multiple safety problems.
I feel bad for the homeowners but have no feelings for those who build and sell homes in these kill zones.
Something you would see in Russia or China, not here.
Never trust a computer you can't throw out a window.
- Steve Wozniak
Get who out??
It should be the residential area that has to move because they encroached on what was probably a safety zone that Silver Eagle had. It’s pretty obvious that the refinery was there before the houses went in. While we are at it, let’s put the responsibility where it should be; on the home owners and probably Woods Cross city council. Someone approved that land for residential use and it more than likely wasn’t Silver Eagle.
Let’s face it folks, when you knowingly buy a house that is only hundreds of feet from a refinery, you have to accept the chance that something like this could happen. This goes for people that move next to an military installation, industrial parks, airports, etc.
http://www.osha.gov/oshstats/index.html
Go to "Establishment Search" and type in Silver Eagle. Start your search in January 2000 and specify the Utah office.
Or instead of being apathetic, you can demand answers from your elected officials, as to WHY they approved residential building so close to a known hazard/emergency blast area.
Or, you can be completely unrealistic and demand that the refinery "move" some place else, where the apathetic voters, and cheap real estate hucksters will do the same thing there.
Just how many people in Davis County actually voted on Tuesday? Hardly any, very typical, very apathetic, and the politicians that make the zoning rules know that. Don't like all the houses next to refineries? Fire the politicians who approve the zoning regulations,variancea and changes.
Oops. Maybe windmills are safer. Oh well.
Windmills use petroleum products too!