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Shurtleff drops out of US Senate race
Utah Attorney General Mark Shurtleff is no longer seeking the GOP nomination for U.S. Senate. Shurtleff was considered a top Republican challenger to Sen. Bob Bennett, but now he says his family needs him more.
November 4th, 2009 @ 9:35pm
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jbelljr
Report Comment 9:00am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
We do NOT need Mark Shurtleff in ANY elected capacity in this state.

The State is facing layoffs and further budget cuts, and he is going after the BCS over a GAME. Mr. Shurtleff, there are FAR MORE IMPORTANT things to use taxpayer money for. Please get your head on straight and figure it out.

Take a look at his public statements relating to the FLDS. He sounds more like Governor Boggs than a "good mormon" should. You would think he would have a little more thoughtfulness than to say "We ran them out of the State, and their Prophet is in jail".

Sorry Mr. Shurtleff, but you have demonstrated a lack of judgment and a lack of common sense. We do not need - nor do we want - you an an elected capacity any more.
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Stan k.
Report Comment 9:03am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@jbelljr - Mark Shurtleff is just another tax & spend job guy.
Please elect someone who knows something about anything.
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lindairish
Report Comment 9:15am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@jbelljr - Now maybe we can get serious about running an honest, true conservative against Bob Bennett.
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icethepuc
Report Comment 9:21am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@jbelljr - Boggs? Shurtleff? No comparison.....Boggs talked death, Shurtleff just escorted criminals out of the state. I think ALL criminals should be escorted out of the state and then we could put signs up at all the entry points..."No Criminals Allowed. Please Stay Out"....!!

Then we would all be secure in our belief that NO criminal activity ever takes place in Utah. We would all be law-abiding "Good People".....right.....??

Yea right, that would work, huh?
OK...troll me....I can't understand what I just wrote.
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noodlekaboodle
Report Comment 9:33am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@jbelljr - How long before some sort of scandal comes out about him?
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Enforce The Law!
Report Comment 9:37am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@jbelljr - I've never trusted this man. He just wasted a lot of volunteers' time. He is weak on immigration. He was out marching with the illegals. I think he should move to Mexico.
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Rachael C.
Report Comment 10:06am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@jbelljr - Thank you for dropping out Shurtleff. You are worse than Bennett.
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Ricky B.
Report Comment 10:09am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@jbelljr - LOOSER!
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Ricky B.
Report Comment 10:14am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@jbelljr - Shurtleff went to the Polygamy groups and told them they are SAFE here and he will not go after them. The top cop of Utah is meeting with criminal groups giving them safe haven. Next he will meet with Hells Angels and tell them they have a home here! Good Bye Mark!
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grzbear10
Report Comment 10:22am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@jbelljr - Thank the lord for small favors.
He would not have been the right guy
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FRY
Report Comment 10:44am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@jbelljr - I agree that we need a true conservative to run for Senate. I don't think Shurtleff is the guy we need to 'represent' Utah.

As for Benett? Let me be clear...NO MORE BENNETT PERIOD!!! He originally ran vowing to run for only two terms and it got him elected. HEY BOB, HOW IS IT THAT YOU ARE RUNNING FOR YOUR 4TH TERM???
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rocky
Report Comment 10:52am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@jbelljr - I listened to the announcement today and I think that it is an honorable thing that he is doing. I gained even more respect for this man and I wish him the best in the future with his family and support him as our AG!
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whateverfor
Report Comment 10:53am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@jbelljr - Mr. Shurtleff, I am glad you are blessed with the opportunity to afford to take care of you daughter with depression. I too have a dughter who has been hospitalized for depression. As a single mom it forced me into bankruptcy after your office sued me for the UNI bills - even as I was making payments toward the bills. Ironically if your office put ANY effort into collection of child support this, and many other hardships would not have occurred. Your office puts zero dollars into collection of out of state support. My ex husband, (a lisenced and practicing attorney), owes over $215,000 dollars and your office does NOTHING to help my children. Less than two months support would have paid these bills and helped my children get medical they needed. I am thrilled you will go no higher in public office and have more lives you can damage.
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lindairish
Report Comment 10:56am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@jbelljr - I don't know why Shurtleff quit, but anyone who tries to run against Bennett is going to come up against the BIG MONEY. It's going to take someone clean, honest and untouchable to run and get the nomination. Any ideas?
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Dj G.
Report Comment 11:49am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@jbelljr - Well, regardless Utahn's-American's really-need to stop electing "career" politicians (Bennett)...

We won't get "change" by re-electing the same people over and over again (Those career politicians, I might add, are the very people who have been driving-and will continue to drive if re-elected-this country right into the ground).

Stop voting for incumbents...give them two terms to get done what they want to get done, and then vote them out.

Bennett has had his shot...time to give someone else a try.

The federal government won't put term limits on Congressman, so it's time the voters of America put term limits on them with our votes.

No more incumbents...
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pms
Report Comment 11:52am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@jbelljr - I think you missed the story - he's leaving to take care of family - way to show your compassion.

Maybe you could use some help?
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Truth To Be Told
Report Comment 11:54am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@jbelljr - If I had a father who worried more about helping illegal immigrants prolong their unwanted stay in the USA I would suffer from depression too!!

Illegal immigrants add a financial burden to our State’s economy and it is a shame this wanted to be Senator does not see the problem. The problems created by illegal immigrants are problems that will be passed on to our children and grandchildren too. Why is it too difficult for this clown to see?

Now, He won’t have to worry about spending time with his family soon, in the upcoming election he will be kicked out of office and he will have all the time he wants to hang out eating chips and salsa with his illegal immigrant friends.

Maybe he can host them all in his house and see for once what is like to have unwanted trespassers in his own house. Let’s see how long it takes for him to run to the State legislators and ask them to do something about the problem!!

If He really wants to serve the State of Utah and his Country he should quit his job (looks more life his hobby) as attorney general and let somebody else with two big nuts step up and do the job Shurtleff was not qualified to do!!

Sorry, Mark does not need prayers; he needs GUTS and two big ones!!
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Truth To Be Told
Report Comment 11:55am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@jbelljr - If I had a father who worried more about helping illegal immigrants prolong their unwanted stay in the USA I would suffer from depression too!!

Illegal immigrants add a financial burden to our State’s economy and it is a shame this wanted to be Senator does not see the problem. The problems created by illegal immigrants are problems that will be passed on to our children and grandchildren too. Why is it too difficult for this clown to see?

Now, He won’t have to worry about spending time with his family soon, in the upcoming election he will be kicked out of office and he will have all the time he wants to hang out eating chips and salsa with his illegal immigrant friends.

Maybe he can host them all in his house and see for once what is like to have unwanted trespassers in his own house. Let’s see how long it takes for him to run to the State legislators and ask them to do something about the problem!!

If He really wants to serve the State of Utah and his Country he should quit his job (looks more life his hobby) as attorney general and let somebody else with two big nuts step up and do the job Shurtleff was not qualified to do!!

Sorry, Mark does not need prayers; he needs GUTS and two big ones!!
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Truth To Be Told
Report Comment 11:59am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@jbelljr - If I had a father who worried more about helping illegal immigrants prolong their unwanted stay in the USA I would suffer from depression too!!

Illegal immigrants add a financial burden to our State’s economy and it is a shame this wanted to be Senator does not see the problem. The problems created by illegal immigrants are problems that will be passed on to our children and grandchildren too. Why is it too difficult for this clown to see?

Now, He won’t have to worry about spending time with his family soon, in the upcoming election he will be kicked out of office and he will have all the time he wants to hang out eating chips and salsa with his illegal immigrant friends.

Maybe he can host them all in his house and see for once what is like to have unwanted trespassers in his own house. Let’s see how long it takes for him to run to the State legislators and ask them to do something about the problem!!

If He really wants to serve the State of Utah and his Country he should quit his job (looks more life his hobby) as attorney general and let somebody else with two big nuts step up and do the job Shurtleff was not qualified to do!!

Sorry, Mark does not need prayers; he needs GUTS and two big ones!!
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Truth To Be Told
Report Comment 11:58am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@jbelljr - If I had a father who worried more about helping illegal immigrants prolong their unwanted stay in the USA I would suffer from depression too!!

Illegal immigrants add a financial burden to our State’s economy and it is a shame this wanted to be Senator does not see the problem. The problems created by illegal immigrants are problems that will be passed on to our children and grandchildren too. Why is it too difficult for this clown to see?

Now, He won’t have to worry about spending time with his family soon, in the upcoming election he will be kicked out of office and he will have all the time he wants to hang out eating chips and salsa with his illegal immigrant friends.

Maybe he can host them all in his house and see for once what is like to have unwanted trespassers in his own house. Let’s see how long it takes for him to run to the State legislators and ask them to do something about the problem!!

If He really wants to serve the State of Utah and his Country he should quit his job (looks more life his hobby) as attorney general and let somebody else with two big nuts step up and do the job Shurtleff was not qualified to do!!

Sorry, Mark does not need prayers; he needs GUTS and two big ones!!
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Angry American
Report Comment 12:12pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@jbelljr - Now iShurtleff will continue to serve as attorney general we could call this a great week for the citizens of Utah!
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wallycleaver
Report Comment 12:39pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@jbelljr - indairish,
Donny Osmond?
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Mat B.
Report Comment 2:11pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@jbelljr - I think he could have simply stated that it was for issues related to the health of a family member. there is a stigma in many peoples eyes when they hear the word Depression that the daughter will now be labeled with.

I wish her the best.
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Informed
Report Comment 2:40pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@jbelljr - Are you kidding? Shurtleff has been more than fair to the FLDS. Jeffs is where he belongs. He is willing to listen to other polygamists who are not child molesters and are not involved in welfare fraud. He disagreed with the Nazi raid of the YFZ ranch in Texas. Comparing him to Boggs is like comparing Bush to Hitler, plain nonsense.
I for one am glad he is not running for the senate. I believe he is needed here as Attorney General.
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Robert84124
Report Comment 3:32pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@jbelljr - I agree, Mark Shurtleff, should not be in any office in the state of Utah. For that matter not anywhere in the US. He should go to Mexico, that is the people he cares about not United States citizens. He has publicly stated that he likes illegals. He pushed to have sesitivity training to be taught to policemen of utah in dealing with the illegals. Taught by La Raza. It made my day hearing he was not going to run for office.
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Arc
Report Comment 3:47pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@jbelljr - I wish Mark Shurtleff the best for his family.
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Oge
Report Comment 5:07pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@jbelljr - What a but hole. Cops out and tries to blame his daughter. Wate a go DAD little girl fills bad so blame your failed campaign on her that ought to help.
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Rachael C.
Report Comment 5:28pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@jbelljr - Depression is no joke. Maybe he can help other depressed teens and their families by suggesting that more insurance companies offer realistic mental health benefits..
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C.R.
Report Comment 5:36pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@jbelljr - I love talk of electing a "true" Conservative.
It will lead to a split in the Republican Party. If only the Democrats weren't the only viable alternative. Of course locally, the Democrats tend to be very sensible, so spits in the Republican Party locally are only good.
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ronsdad
Report Comment 7:26pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@jbelljr - The Constitution was trample with his over reaction to the Great People who exercise their right of freedom to practice their religion as they see fit!

Shame on you MARK!!!!
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Rachael C.
Report Comment 9:44am - Thu Nov 5th, 2009
@jbelljr - I normally don't hold grudges. But I do with Mark. One of his reasons for taking "alco-pops" off of grocery store shelves is that "women are attracted to those sugary drinks as well" (true story. He actually said that out loud and I'm curious as to why there wasn't an outrage amongst Utah citizens on that one). Even though I pretty much never drink anymore, that offended me to no end.

I AM AN ADULT WOMAN! YOU ARE NOT SUPERIOR TO ME!
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Anxie 2: Electric Boogaloo
Report Comment 9:05am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
I'm predicting he's gonna promise 2 unicorns in every garage and a golden egg laying goose in every pot.
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Anxie 2: Electric Boogaloo
9:12am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@Anxie 2: Electric Boogaloo - Man, I was so close.
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Sneaky Pete
9:09am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
If you support Mark Shurtleff you condone incest, child molestation and polygamy.
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At2008
Report Comment 9:12am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@Sneaky Pete - That's a ridiculous statement, Sneaky Pete.
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Legal Eagle
Report Comment 9:46am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@Sneaky Pete - Now you've really got me confused.
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Jimmy The Great
Report Comment 10:01am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@Sneaky Pete - YUP Sneaky Pete is correct:

Shurtleff refuses to touch the polygamy sector of Utah population unless they make Utah look BAD REAL BAD just like Tom Green did when he went on the Jerry springer show then was arrested two days later "RECORD TIME ARREST I MY ADD".

Shurtleff says right now it is not possible to go after every polygamy group in Utah well Shurtleff if you did your job 10 years ago they ewould be wiped out wouldn't they dude? Just think folks if MArk went after every polygamy group like Tom Green was sought this would not even be a topic of discussion now would it Mark. Mark invites polygamy member to the legislature to talk sounds criiminal to me. Do you all see why i was so happy to promote Shurtleff to DC he is less harmfuil in DC than he is in Utah. MArk Mark haven't you already messed enough up in Utah man?
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At2008
Report Comment 10:31am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@Sneaky Pete - Oh come on, Jimmy. Why do you even care if 2 or more adult women want to be "married" to the same adult man? It is really none of your business, and it shouldn't even be against the law.
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Jimmy The Great
Report Comment 10:41am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@Sneaky Pete - At2008 I agree with you who cares:

What does concern me is since Mark has bent this law and not enforced the law how many other laws has Mark and his criminal thugs bent to suit their agenda? Please remember Shurtleff is a public employee paid with "HONORABLE TAX MONEY" yet Shurtleff treats his office like it is a private law firm what a joke. As far as i am concerned two woman- twenty woman sounds good to me but high maintain to so how much WELFARE are they fleecing every time they make their fifty "menster" family between five chicks and one guy (personally i think Shurtleff wants in on the multiple woman scene so he is playing his cards for that day otherwise taking care of business and abiding by the law would not have been a population issue to deal with had Shurtleff dealt with this issue swiftly instead of let it grow so large there is a population issue as to where dowe house all these people if convicted). Face it Shurtleff flaked which is why i so badly wanted Shurtleff in DC he less harmful in DC than he is right here in Utah.
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Grvtykllr
Report Comment 11:05am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@Sneaky Pete - AT2008

I agree, it should be legal, noones business.
Just like two gays being married is noones business.
In this case I have to disagree though as we are not talking baout 2 adult g=women being married to one man.
We are talking about protecting children from being forced to marry a cousin or other adults, we are talking about incest, and abuse, and fraud on the welfare system.

If two adults choose to get married, good for them, I wish them luck, if 3 adults choose to be married or 12 adults choose to all be married in one big family, good for them, it has no effect on me and is NONE OF MY OR YOUR BUSINESS.

If they follow the laws and choose to be productive members of society, Im all for it. Its not for me, I have one wife and thats all I want, but what others do, so long as it does not harm anyone else, is up to them.
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Sneaky Pete
Report Comment 5:14pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@Sneaky Pete - At2008

Are polygamists breaking the law? Yes
Has Mark allowed the law to be broken? Yes
Did he meet with the polygamy group? Yes
Do polygamists marry young girls? Yes
Do polygamists marry family memebrs? Yes
Do polygamist engage in sexual activity with the young brides? Yes

I can't understand how you can say this is a ridiculous statement, show me where I am wrong.

So if you support Mark Shurtleff you condone incest, child molestation and polygamy, and it appears you don't have a problem with this.
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Zionheritic
Report Comment 9:16am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
I wonder what dirt the Bennett people dug up on him. Or what it took to buy him off. Nobody as tenacious as this turd of a human just drops out of a race.
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Pleasinreason
Report Comment 10:37am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@Zionheritic - I am glad he is out of the race, and I hope the people will find a candidate to replace Bennett, we need someone to represent us all the time not just when it is close to election time.
I also would like to see Shurtleff out of the position he is in. He is not a friend to the people of this State.
I will however, give prayers for his daughter and her fight against depression. Something tells me this is not the real reason he is quitting the race, but his daughter deserves at least our good thoughts.
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WhoeverSaid
Report Comment 7:40pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@Zionheritic - All I can say is "Thank Goodness!!"

I feel terribly for his daughter; this is such a difficult age to be dealing with such a difficult condition, and I wish her the very best.

However, I am EXTREMELY relieved to see Mr. Shurtleff out of the Senate race. I truly do NOT want to see that man in Utah politics, and especially at the federal level. I wish he would just quietly go open up a title company or something...

As far as his decision to "continue to serve Utah" in his present capacity as Attorney General, I believe it would be hard to find a person who has done a WORSE job in that capacity, and I would like to see him "serve" us by getting out of Utah politics once and for all.

I'm personally terrified of the damage this man could do to our state at the federal level if he were put in Washington. He is the exact type of maneuvering, manipulating, underhanded personality who thrives in that cesspool we call Washington, D.C., and I believe he would perpetuate the perversion.
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CTRMann
Report Comment 9:18am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
Come on Jason Chaffetz! Give us some hope for a good person in this office like yourself. Xing fingers! No to Bob Bennette!
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UnderJamz
Report Comment 9:22am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@CTRMann - Jason Chaffetz would clean up the Senate.
I don't think the crooks on the hill are comfortable with that.
My gosh, what would they do with an ethical person in the ranks?


VOTE BOBBY BENNETTE OUT!!!!
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password please
Report Comment 10:58am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@CTRMann - We dont need to vote Chaffetz in. He can just challenge Bennett to an Indian-Leg-Wrestle over it!
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yeojog
Report Comment 4:28pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@CTRMann - Poor Cherlyn Eager has been black-balled by the media, never calling her to get a quote. It's almost as if she isn't even running for the Senate.
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UnderJamz
Report Comment 9:19am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
Anyone needs to step up and get rid of old man Bennette.
He's so out of touch with the needs of the people in Utah.

I think Super Deldo needs to run for Senate.
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Grvtykllr
Report Comment 11:14am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@UnderJamz - Anyone?
How about me?
Would you vote for me?
I want marijuana legal, correction RElegalized, I want harsher penalties for those convicted of driving under the influence of any substance. I want SB81 enforced. I want these pot farms in the woods cleaned up, and the growers locked up. I want illegals deported back to country of origin, no matter what country that happens to be. I want the churches to pay taxes on profits, I want the churches influence (all churches, not just 'the church') to stop having influence on politics and let science guide policy.
I want the archaic booze policy of this state GONE. I want adults to be adults and suffer the repercussions of the negative actions they initiate, and reap the benefits of an honest living.
I want everyone to have the same rights, no matter what god they pray and pay, no matter what color of skin they have, no matter if they are gay or straight.
i want welfare to be a helping hand to those in need that hit hard times, not a way of life to avoid work and responsibility. I want english to be the language and not to have to push 2 to avoid a spanish operator. I want accountability in my elected officials.
Now, with a small sample of what I stand for, is anyone better than bennet? or you just running your mouth?
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stupidhead
Report Comment 2:20pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@UnderJamz - ok Grvtykllr. I'll bite. I have $10 million for you. Say whatever you want during the election. From the ten million, spend whatever it takes to get elected. Keep the rest. After you are elected, you do what I want you to do.
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Grvtykllr
Report Comment 2:38pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@UnderJamz - Stupid, that goes against what I want.
I want the power, then the cash.
Honestly, i rally do think that things would be better if I were in charge, but then Id wager that everyone else thinks that it would be better if they were the ones in charge.
The best hope is to find a candidate that agrees with half of what you think is right, and then hope he acts on his words.

besides all of that, You couldnt get me elected with 50 million let alone 10.
I do not believe in god, I have 27 tattoos, but none of my hands or face! long hair and a full beard, I tend to speak first and think later, have very little good to say about our police, am on my second marriage, and worst of all I consider myself someplace closer to middle than the left or the right.
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yeojog
Report Comment 4:31pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@UnderJamz - Grvtykllr

Dad?
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David T.
Report Comment 9:21am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
Mark Shurleff took at 180,000 bribe to wipe out all the complaints against "Mentoring of America" (John Beck - Late night real estate scam guru)

It was called a "Campain Donation" miraculously the hundreds if not thousands of complains are erased.

I am ashamed that we even allow a person like that to represent us in this state in the first place

I would call the "Attorney General" on him, but woops he is the Attorney General.
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Keeping it Real
Report Comment 9:22am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
Dealing with a loved one with mental illness is heartbreaking, time consuming, and exhausting. Because we love these people, we set asisde our own sspirations and do everything we can to improve their lives. Whether or not I agree with Mark Shurtleff's politics, I commend him for putting his family first in this case. My thoughts and prayers are with his family. I know your pain.

Now, democrats, pleeeease give us an alternative to Bob Bennett worth voting for.
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A Blinkin
Report Comment 9:31am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@Keeping it Real - You have Sam Granato, a fine man and a Democrat already running.
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saturated
9:23am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
All the liberals on ksl, want a liberal taking over for Benett.
They're forgetting Benett is already a progressive, about as close as you get to a liberal without calling yourself a liberal.
We need a consevative tea party candidate.
Our state has been degrading since the California scum and the elites on the avenues started voting liberals in.

They want to turn this state into a
S hole, welfare, social program haven for the leaches.
Liquor stores on every corner
pornography shops on every corner
legalize pot
More prostitution.
Higher taxes to pay for all of it
Run all bussinesses out of the state.
Higher unemployment.

Liberal are the epitome of "INSANITY"
They never learn
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Strength and Honor
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Anxie 2: Electric Boogaloo
Report Comment 9:26am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@saturated - saturated

The internet makes pr0n shops pointless.
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saturated
Report Comment 9:43am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@saturated - Not everyone can afford a computer and DSL hook up dude
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Strength and Honor
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xxxIsisxxx
Report Comment 10:54am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@saturated - Saturated -

Given Utah's pr0n viewing statistics, it seems they can ;)
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makin'_ya_angry
Report Comment 1:36pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@saturated - I heart p0rn!
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Bill J.
Report Comment 9:23am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
If his daughter does in fact suffer from depression, I wish them well in their efforts to lift her up out of the depths of despair. A public statement concerning her current state must be difficult and I doubt that it made his daughter feel any better about herself.
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Chubby_Monkey
Report Comment 9:56am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@Bill J. - If I were related to Shurtleff, I would be depressed as well.
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Lee D.
Report Comment 11:32am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@Bill J. - I wonder if it his his adopted Mexican daughter who is suffering from Depression? Next thing you know he'll be telling the legislature that she's depressed because of SB-81.
ditto +5
huhole
Report Comment 9:24am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
Bennett is an idiot, Shurtleff is a bigger one. Either way, we're screwed!
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Rick W.
Report Comment 9:24am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
Well, it looks like Bennett will be re-elected.
ditto +4
Wolfdragon
Report Comment 1:30pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@Rick W. - Too bad the people of Utah only look at repub or dem on the ticket. Start looking at the independants. Many fine people are running under this banner and it includes some very fine organizations. I have looked a t several and they look better than the dems and the repubs. One organization thart appeals to me is the Constitutional Party. You can Google it and find them very easily. They are like the old repub party, but they need members to get some teeth. I would bet these guys would give both dems and repubs a run for their money if they were elected in.

Couldn't be any worse than the two corrupt parties we have now.
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the mange
Report Comment 9:25am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
I hope somebody truly qualified and that understands our constitution steps up to the plate.

KSL, please give in depth research and interviews to all the candidates.

Let's get somebody who'll really buck the system to replace Bennett.
ditto +5
UnderJamz
Report Comment 9:29am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@the mange - I wouldn't expect that to happen.
KSL will continue to push their own personal agenda on who they want in office.
Jeff P.
Report Comment 10:55pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@the mange - ABB.ABB,ABB,ABB, SOUND FAMILIAR...LOL
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jbelljr
Report Comment 9:28am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
Again, I think in saying that he was going for sympathy. He should have taken more thought for how making it public might impact her. More lack of judgment.

As for the comparison of Boggs and Shurtleff:

Go to Fox 13 and look up Shurtleff, FLDS, interview. He brags about having run them out of the state and how their Prophet is in jail. Regardless of what you believe, you would think that a Mormon would know how biting those words were - especially when spoken with the glee he demonstrated.

Then there was Boggs...

"The Mormons must be treated as enemies, and must be exterminated or driven from the State if necessary for the public peace—their outrages are beyond all description."
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Jimmy The Great
Report Comment 9:29am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
NO Shurtleff you can't drop out now you are da man for the job.

Mark Mark oh Mark you were doing Utah such a huge favor by running for office on the opposite coast line. Don't disappoint us Mark I had high hopes of moving you to DC out of Utah man. Keep making your Senate pitch you have my vote and many others GUARANTEED Super Mark.
huh? -5
Danite73
Report Comment 9:34am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
Mr. Shirtliff,

Please, rest on your sword. Than unseat Hatch!
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Suzi P.
Report Comment 9:40am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
Dealing with a mental illness is hard on the whole family. Kudos to Mr. Shurtliff for putting the needs of his family first. I hope the best for the entire Shurtliff family.
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Sharppointy1
Report Comment 12:26pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@Suzi P. - I feel badly for the Shurtleff family. Mental illness can be a terrible thing, hard to treat. It sometimes becomes a life long issue with a terrible stigma.
I admire Mr Shurtleff for taking time to help his daughter regain her health.
May the Lord watch over them all, especially the daughter who is so ill.
ditto +4
concernedru
Report Comment 9:46am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
good move, keeps the heat off of you letting criminals go free for a fee/contribution ...
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GentlyUsedStuff
Report Comment 9:48am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
We need to pull together and throw down with the GOP...I'm completely sick of the mindless regurgitation of centuries old conservatism that blindfolds our children and sucks us dry of our freedoms. We need a new attitude. We need a clean slate. stop ignoring problems and just fix them. put an end to closed-mindedness. (ever try to disagree with a conservative? they just stop listening rather than think and communicate objectively...)
ditto +8
A Blinkin
Report Comment 10:19am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@GentlyUsedStuff - Ever try to disagree with a liberal? They don't even come to the table with a reasoned thought.
ditto +1
arthur61
Report Comment 11:11am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@GentlyUsedStuff - The only party I think has a mind is the independents. I do not agree with all of them but we will actually talk and debate our disagreements and try to find command ground on things that we can agree one and fight for together. United we stand, divided we fall.
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Wolfdragon
Report Comment 1:42pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@GentlyUsedStuff - The dems are just as bad. Until the people of Utah are willing to look at a third party then it will have to be the ones in office right now. People need to get dems and repubs out of their brain and start voting for the one who is best for the country. Quit voting for one of the two party nominiees. Neither of these parties are doing what is best for the people. They are doing what is best for special interest and those who will line their pockets with cash.

If everyone was to start voting in a third party it would send a message to both the dems and repubs. Problem is that both of these parties think they know what is best for us and refuse to listen to the people. Instead they listen to those who have the cash and want us, the people, to believe them and do what they want. The name of the game is always money and power.
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I'm Rob
Report Comment 9:50am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
My first thoughts also were what dirt did they dig up and threaten him with. There is no way he dropped out of this without threat of a scandal breaking.

I agree that we need to get Chavetz to run against old man Bennett.
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icethepuc
Report Comment 10:11am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@I'm Rob - I think he dropped out so he could be Sarah Palin's running mate in the next presidential election. I understand they will be running for the WHO? party?

(I agree with you - someone scared him with some dirt. He has spent way too much time and effort on this. Problem is...the dirt will come out anyway and he has made his daughter even more depressed by invoking her name and situation)
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indiscreetinsanpete
Report Comment 3:26pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@I'm Rob - Im Rob . You are correct we do need Chavetz. Afterall he has worked so hard to keep people from seeing his wife naked in an airport scanner pic. Other than that what has this small minded idiot from Utah county done??/
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stealth
Report Comment 9:50am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
It would be nice to have Shurtliff in the national politics rather than messing up local politics here. The best thing that happened was Huntsman not meddeling with Real soccer stadiums, Vouchers, and hurtful district splits.

The same things Shurtliff has meddeled with. I had found Shurtliff on the wrong side of most every issue I stood for!
ditto +13
Craig L.
Report Comment 9:53am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
Thank goodness Shertleff is out. Now let's find someone with strong conservative values that can defeat Bob "Banking Bailout" Bennett. Thanks to Uncle Bob, we're 700 billion more dollars in debt. We can't bear that kind of represtation any longer.
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arthur61
Report Comment 11:46am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@Craig L. - Bob Bennett, Orin Hatch and Roy Blunt drafted the first Bailout bill. They all have their savings in Freddie and Fannie Mac Banks.
ditto +5
concernedru
Report Comment 9:58am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
Weird, strange that he drops out becuase his daughter is depressed ... wasn't she depressed before? What a cop out! He is really afraid that he may go to prison for letting felons go free for a fee!!!
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Brad D.
Report Comment 10:01am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
I am sure he received his marching orders from a "higher authority". This is Utah after all.
ditto +2
arthur61
Report Comment 11:16am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@Brad D. - "higher authority"= the Good Old Party.
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BYUTE
Report Comment 10:03am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
Dear Shurtleff,
First, I hope your daughter improves. Second, way to be a man and throw your daughter under the bus for a failed campaign. Not that she's not suffering enough already, but now the whole state knows she has mental issues. For the rest of her life, in addition to whatever problems she's currently dealing with, she can now have the guilt of ruining her father's campaign to be a U.S. Senator. You are a true family man.
ditto +5
D K.
Report Comment 10:26am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@BYUTE - BYUTE you wrote just exactly what I first thought when I heard this on the radio. He will forever regret the day that he blamed his daughter for his own failings.
funny +4
whiskeytango
Report Comment 10:10am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
I guess Senator Bennett wrote his stupid book for nothing!
ditto +1
maggieanne
Report Comment 10:16am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
Thank God.
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Rickscott
Report Comment 10:36am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
Remind me to be as insensitive in my comments on a story about your hardships.

You may not have liked the man, but making comments like the majority of you have on a story about him dropping out to help his daughter survive and live through a very deep depression is uncalled for.

I rarely read the comments on ksl.com stories anymore because the majority of them do nothing to add to the conversation other than to belittle people and argue with each other.
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D K.
Report Comment 10:46am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@Rickscott - Rickscott If you know anyone that has depression or any other mental disorder, you would know that the most insensitive thing a person could do is to cite thier disorder in making a supposed self sacrificing life change. ESPECIALLY to a national audience! Mark Shurtleff has exposed himself as a very selfish politition at best and possibly worse if this is just a cover for realizing that he was in over his head.
split vote 0
Gm-y
Report Comment 1:59pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@Rickscott - @D K. - he is running for public office, unfortunately public explanation is necessary.
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whateverfor
Report Comment 10:39am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
Mr. Shurtleff, I am glad you are blessed with the opportunity to afford to take care of you daughter with depression. I too have a dughter who has been hospitalized for depression. As a single mom it forced me into bankruptcy after your office sued me for the UNI bills - even as I was making payments toward the bills. Ironically if your office put ANY effort into collection of child support this, and many other hardships would not have occurred. Your office puts zero dollars into collection of out of state support. My ex husband, (a lisenced and practicing attorney), owes over $215,000 dollars and your office does NOTHING to help my children. Less than two months support would have paid these bills and helped my children get medical they needed. I am thrilled you will go no higher in public office and have more lives you can damage.
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Jeff D.
Report Comment 10:41am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
There is definately something fishy with him dropping out. The corruption in all of government is spreading like a STD. God help us all!
ditto +2
arthur61
Report Comment 10:47am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
I think it is time for the American's to start understanding how the Republican Party works. All the leaders of the Republican Party are chosen by the Chair of the Republican Party. This Chair is not govern by the people of the U.S.A. This Chair is governed by those in Washington that got us into this mess. And Bob Bennett is governed by the Chair of the Republican Party.
ditto +3
arthur61
Report Comment 10:51am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
Does anyone know anyone running on the Libertarian party ticket?
ditto +2
Wolfdragon
Report Comment 2:00pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@arthur61 - Look up the Costituional Party. They are a good one...
fatheroffive
Report Comment 3:08pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@arthur61 - I like the Constitutional party also, however, nothing is wrong with the Utah Republican party platform. See http://www.utgop.org/UtahGOP/users/13/Party%20Platform%20pdf.pdf

The only thing that is wrong is the Republican Party keeps choosing people in its primaries that don't believe that platform. Please all patriotic Republicans get involved early to help Republicans pick a true conservative and a true Republican candidate. That means they must be willing to call the national leaders of the Republican party out on departing from Republican principles.
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arthur61
Report Comment 4:38pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@arthur61 - I voted the republican platform down in the caucus, and conventions and I still do not like it.
arthur61
Report Comment 4:44pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@arthur61 - I believe that the republican platform should have been written by the people and not someone from Washington D.C. And then it was marketed by George W. Bush, his son and Mccain. And if I remember right no one in utah out of the Republican party liked Mccain.
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RW Lacidar
Report Comment 10:54am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
We need a indpendent conservative third party candidate. All Americans need to divorce themselves from both the Democrat and Republican political machines. Shurtleff dropping out is wonderful - I wouldn't vote for him for dog catcher.
ditto +4
maxbass
Report Comment 2:55pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@RW Lacidar - Shurtleff for dog catcher, that's a good one. He can't (and won't) do anything about the thousands of illegal mexicans/gangbangers swarming into this state. I can imagine he'd come up with some weak excuse for not catching dogs if that was his job.

OUT WITH SHURTLEFF AS AG
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arthur61
Report Comment 10:55am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
Who is running on the independent ticket? green Party? progressive Party? Constitutional Party? Study these Parties out and find out witch party you agree with the most and vote that way.
insightful +5
Regularguy
Report Comment 10:56am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
Sorry to hear that about his family, indeed you need to take care of your family. However, the flip side of that is I'm thinking to myself, this guy is smarter than I gave him credit for. He's getting out while he can, realizing he does not have a chance at winning the seat.
ditto +12
arthur61
Report Comment 11:00am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
George Washington was against the party system because it would destroy the people ability to think for themselves and put all there trust in there leaders to solve all there problems.
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sheba
Report Comment 11:10am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
It's been a long time. But if memory serves me right, Jake Garn did not "decline" to run for another term...he ran and won again. Then he promptly retired and Bob Bennett was appointed to finish Garn's term. That enabled him to be the "incumbent" in the next election and have access to all of the campaign money that the title endows.
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arthur61
Report Comment 11:32am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@sheba - Sheba you got it. The republicans have an easier time running an incumbent then they do a new person. So a lot of the time they will run an incumbent and then put in the person they wanted to win. The new gov. gained his position the same way.
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arthur61
Report Comment 11:41am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@sheba - The democrats also have an easier time running an incumbent then a new person.
ditto +5
I Can't Beleve It
Report Comment 11:16am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
One Word GoooooooooooooooooooD
ditto +3
sureman123
Report Comment 11:17am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@I Can't Beleve It - ditto that.
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Phil E.
Report Comment 11:22am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
Cherilyn Eager
Back to the our roots! Back to the Constitution!

eagarforsenate.com
troll -4
Steve S.
Report Comment 12:06pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@Phil E. - Any body hear Mrs. Eager speak? My blue heeler dog makes more sense.....troll away:)
troll -6
Steve S.
Report Comment 12:09pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@Phil E. - Any body hear Mrs. Eager speak? My blue heeler dog makes more sense.....troll away:)
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fatheroffive
Report Comment 3:02pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@Phil E. - Wow, she has more credentials than you could hope to find in anyone that is also conservative. I.e. she has been involved politically her whole life on the right side of issues.

She looks like a perfect candidate! She would help us get America away from the socialism that we have embraced before it reaches the Marxism that Obama's team would love us to embrace.
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Wik
Report Comment 11:28am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
FINALLY a victory!! Or is it... now all we have is Hatch. Can we PLEASE get an honest man to run, just this once?
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luckyanndog
Report Comment 11:30am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
I think Utah has suffered a great loss today with the news of Mark Shurtleff. He is a great man and represents Utah well.
ditto +2
Lee D.
Report Comment 11:33am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@luckyanndog - Couldn't disagree with you more. Shurtleff is horribly corrupt and doesn't accurately reflect Utah or conservative values.
witty +1
I Can't Beleve It
Report Comment 3:39pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@luckyanndog - What part of utah do u live in do u not get regular tv/radio to keep up with the times this guys a freakin joke
ditto +4
Snorkle
Report Comment 11:37am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
Bet you old man Bennett got some dirt on Shurtleff and old Mark thought it might be best to stay as AG as apposed to Bubba's buddy @ the point
ditto +3
Colt Thornton
Report Comment 11:42am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
GOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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B A.
Report Comment 11:43am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
I thought any republican (even a moderate) would be better than bennett. being an attorney general I believe shurtleff believes strongly in STATES RIGHTS which is of critical importance at this point in our countries history. my #1 choice has always been chaffettz to run for senate. I think fred Lamptropolis (not sure how you spell his last name) CEO of merit medical would be excellent (he understands the issues very well). he may be one of the few people that can put up enough $ to run against bennett. no other names come to my mind other than current or former congressman (any of which I would prefer over bennett).....chris cannon, rob bishop, merrill cook.
split vote 0
luckyanndog
Report Comment 11:44am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
Mark has always stood up for what he believes in, what you see is what you get. there are no surprises with Mark
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Moodyblue
Report Comment 11:44am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
Why do you sheep have to vote for a Republican?Is it Utah law or something.
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arthur61
Report Comment 11:59am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@Moodyblue - I think that a lot of mormons in Utah believe that all mormons should be republicans. The forget that Ezra Taft Benson was an independent and not a Republican after the Eisenhower administration. He joined the John Burch Society when it first got started. And both the Democrats and Republicans disagree with the J.B.S.
ditto +2
Wolfdragon
Report Comment 2:24pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@Moodyblue - Because we do not believe in the libral agenda of the dems. Problem is you vote for one crook or the other. So we chose the lessor of two evils. In most cases it is the repubs.
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arthur61
Report Comment 4:51pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@Moodyblue - Voting for the lessor of two evils is still supporting evil. And all you will get is nothing good.
ditto +2
Truth To Be Told
Report Comment 11:59am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
If I had a father who worried more about helping illegal immigrants prolong their unwanted stay in the USA I would suffer from depression too!!

Illegal immigrants add a financial burden to our State’s economy and it is a shame this wanted to be Senator does not see the problem. The problems created by illegal immigrants are problems that will be passed on to our children and grandchildren too. Why is it too difficult for this clown to see?

Now, He won’t have to worry about spending time with his family soon, in the upcoming election he will be kicked out of office and he will have all the time he wants to hang out eating chips and salsa with his illegal immigrant friends.

Maybe he can host them all in his house and see for once what is like to have unwanted trespassers in his own house. Let’s see how long it takes for him to run to the State legislators and ask them to do something about the problem!!

If He really wants to serve the State of Utah and his Country he should quit his job (looks more life his hobby) as attorney general and let somebody else with two big nuts step up and do the job Shurtleff was not qualified to do!!

Sorry, Mark does not need prayers; he needs GUTS and two big ones!!
insightful +3
Ronald Levine
Report Comment 12:21pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
James Williams for US Senate
It's our duty to seek good candidates and be "ever vigilant." I spent time to personally talk to ALL of the candidates and I'm voting for James Williams. Jason Chaffetz won over Chris Cannon by starting way early and working hard to meet his future constituents. James Williams is doing similarly, so it can happen. It's up to you! Check out his website and call him. http://voteforjameswilliams.com/index1.html
Let's organize town meetings and invite James William to speak to us. Thank-you.
RonaldHLevine4548@yahoo.com
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arthur61
Report Comment 12:31pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
The problem with our government is not immigration but S.S.I.,food stamps, the federal reserve, the national board of education, the C.I.A, the F.B.I.,medicade ,medicare, department of transportation, and all unconstitutional organizations ran by are federal government. You get rid of them all and then you will solve the immigration problem.
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maxbass
Report Comment 3:01pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@arthur61 - The problem is BOTH illegals, as well as the welfare programs you mentioned. The fact is that the illegals get all of these entitlements (WIC, welfare, citizenship and schooling for their anchor babies, and free health care in the emergency rooms).

We get rid of all these entitlement freebies, and most of them will go back to mexico when there is nothing more for them to leech off.

Having Shurtleff gone as attorney general would be a good start to getting rid of the illegals.
ditto +3
Icereamaholic
Report Comment 12:32pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
Tim Bridgewater announced his candidacy not too long ago as well, hopefully a large majority of people will get behind one of these other candidates and we can get Bob Bennett out of the Senate for good. I know I am ready for a change. We definitely need new leaders in washington, people that care about what we want, that will stop playing games and get things done. (without spending money we don't have)
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sheba
Report Comment 12:35pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
Politcal persuasions aside, this is really a tragic story. Mental illness has no "typical" victims. It hits every social and economic level of society. The higher up the ladder you are, the harder you try to solve it without admitting to anyone the problem exsits.
"Mental illness can't happen to people that are REALLY living the gospel"
To those of you that are saying that this is going to make his daughter worse I say WRONG. This is going to be setting her free to struggle with these demons with loving family members that have proven they love her more than they love their place in society. Having lost a very beloved friend to suicidal depression, I wish this family well and hope that they are blessed with a successful outcome
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Knight of Shadow
Report Comment 12:48pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
Bummer.
Oh wait....meant to say YEEEEEHAWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!

Now all we gots to do is get rid of that imposter in the White House, then we'll be good. Oh wait again...

First we have to find someone to replace the White House idiot with. Someone who won't bankrupt the country, who won't apologize for sneezing....

Hmm....I officially cast my bid to run for Senate.
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Gm-y
1:53pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
To whom it may concern,

WOW, I am amazed at some of the comments on here. May I ask how many of you who are making PERSONAL attacks on Mr. Shurtleff have actually met him in PERSON?

While you may not agree with how he has performed his job in office, your attacks are thoughtless. I hope that at some point in your pathetic existence, when you are grasping for the help and support of those around you, someone takes the time to slander you in a public forum.

"Sometimes the things that may or may not be true are the things [that society] needs to believe in the most. [Such as], that people are basically good.that honor, courage, and virtue mean everything...."

My guess is that few if any of you would have the heart or courage to make these attacks on Mr. Shurtleff in PERSON.

So, that having been said, I hope that as you hide behind KSL's veil of anonymity, you will take time to reconsider whatever paradigm you are operating in and try to find an ounce of compassion and sympathy for a man who is facing a demon all of us would prefer to never have to face in our own lives.
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GentlyUsedStuff
Report Comment 3:07pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@Gm-y - Boring! what are you? another dumb conservative? what do you do with your spouse on Friday nights? eat marshmallows and watch TV?
disagree -3
Addicus
Report Comment 3:50pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@Gm-y - Gm-y, I will stand with you on this forum and thank you for hitting the proverbial nail on the head. This forum was long ago, hijacked by hicks and bigots who have no more reason than a moth does flying into the bug zapper.

Mark Shurtleff is a very fine and upstanding man who has lived a principled and productive life. He of course, takes the blame for every legal action his office of over 200 attorney has ever taken against anyone (some of whom come on this forum to complain about it).

But I know personally from my interactions with his office and with him personally when I say, that I truly admire the guy and his personal courage and fortitude.

Troll away the rest of you. The great nut parade marches on in the form of the KSL comment board.
ditto +2
Robert84124
Report Comment 6:58pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@Gm-y - I have told Mark Shurtleff to his face what I thought about his support of illegals. When he would speak to them and tell them he supports them. But he wouldn't support US citizens who where upset with the illegals. I ask why La Raza was giving sensitivity training to our police. He supports La Raza and the other illegal immigrant supporters. So I think he should get out of politics all together in Utah he is way out of touch with citizens. But supports the illegals and has gone as far as stating openly he supports salt lake city as a sanctuary city, for illegals. Openly stated he will not support checking immigrants status. My view, If they can't speak english good chance their illegal.
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Knight of Shadow
Report Comment 7:19pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@Gm-y - Gm-y....

I'd LOVE to meet the politician. I'd tell him EXACTLY what I think of the lying...I mena job he's done. Typical politician. Liars through and through.

If you'd like to set up a meeting with Marky Mark, and me, I'd be happy to let you video tape the conversation. He is a crook, and deserves to be let know about it.
ditto +2
T shane
Report Comment 2:18pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
Shurtleff never wanted to "serve his country." He is a power hungry liar who only wanted more power, and wanted to serve the ESTABLISHMENT. Proof that he only wanted to serve the establishment? Shurtleff believes that government is actually the parent of your children and not you (people have disagreed with their kids' doctors and general Shurtleff has sent the DCFS gestapo to steal their kids). Shurtleff supports the satanic and unending "war on drugs" which has destroyed half of the bill of rights (especially state's rights). As if all this wasn't enough, Shurtleff wants to give amnesty to the hordes of criminal illegals who have invaded our nation, who cause tens of thousands of DUIs every year (many more than the general population), who commit document fraud, who steal low end jobs and keep our wages low, and who have caused spanish to be smeared like feces on the label of every product you buy.

Basically, Shurtleff cares about power, the establishment, and climbing the ladder of the establishment (like Mike Leavitt and Prince Jon Huntsman). Good riddance Mark, now go take your daughter fishing.
huh? -3
Jason F.
Report Comment 7:00am - Thu Nov 5th, 2009
@T shane - Wow. If that's not racist, I don't know what is. Your'e comparing written spanish on boxes to feces? You're a disgrace to this state and whatever religion you claim to be a part of.
ditto +2
CatScratchFvr
Report Comment 2:26pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
Depression huh? Well I have been depressed ever since the testicle-less Shurtleff took office. Bought off by Bennett no doubt.
ditto +3
B A.
Report Comment 2:55pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
anyone who is a staunch supporter of the campaign for liberty movement will most likely get my vote.
split vote 0
GentlyUsedStuff
Report Comment 3:03pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
Good. They guy dropped out. big surprise. but that just means less chance of another uptight, blind, ignorant, corrupt, smelly conservative
ditto +1
rinder
Report Comment 5:24pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@GentlyUsedStuff - Actually, there is more to it than that. I just heard an interview he gave after the announcement. He is not running, in part, because he is worried about paying for health care for his daughter...

I think this is a case of yet another Conservative who is learning, first hand, that reform is not for the poor people on welfare, it is for hard-working families who get caught up in the shredder.
ditto +6
RichmondPropertiesSLC
Report Comment 3:24pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
Bennett sucks!.. But Shurtleff would have been worse!..
ditto +4
mountainman0813
Report Comment 3:45pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
Mark Shurtleff is a TOOL Bag! Not very insightful of me but feels great to get that off my chest! LOL
ditto +1
Arc
Report Comment 3:49pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
I wish Shurtleff and his family the best.
troll -2
GentlyUsedStuff
Report Comment 3:57pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
Addicus is up to his usual butt munching. kiss up some more jerk, it only humors me all the more. I continue to laugh at your ignorance. (it really isn't bliss)
troll -1
Addicus
Report Comment 4:03pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@GentlyUsedStuff - I think butt munching is something the liberals are trying to legalize. Your name would seem to be indicative of someone who was into that kind of thing.
Addicus
Report Comment 10:24am - Thu Nov 5th, 2009
@GentlyUsedStuff - GentlyUsedStuff

My response below was nothing short of a knee jerk and immature reaction to the vulgar and crass comment you made. I apologize for stooping to your level and making that stupid comment.

I know that general mistrust of our leaders is fomented by limited and slanted press and by forums such as this where it is easy for the ill informed masses to chant their irrational mantra.

I know Mark Shurleff, I know his office and how it functions. I cannot disagree more with the wave of negativity expressed by so many in this forum. His decision to end his campaign was based only upon the health care needs of his daughter at this time.

If he had one tent the ego, he is accused of in this forum, he would not end his campaign for this or any other reason. This man is a stand up guy.
ditto +3
samspyder
Report Comment 4:27pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
I could never understand how someone could feel good about getting paid for being the AG on one hand and spending most of his time crashing bikes and running for Senate on the other. Now that he has dropped out will he concentrate on earning his paycheck? I doubt it. I hope his daughter is ok but I really think it is just a lame excuse to pull out of a race he couldnt win anyway. Not that I want Bennett to be re elected cause I dont. He and Hatch need to hang it up and we the people need to throw them out if they dont. This country needs a new revolution. oh one more thing...Shurtluff sucks. the end.
split vote 0
Addicus
Report Comment 8:05am - Thu Nov 5th, 2009
@samspyder - I do not know whats worse, your uninformed drivel or the fact that you ditto yourself.

The real truth is that Shurtleff has like a 70 plus percent approval rating in this state and has never had any challenge when he has run for A.G.

This forum is full of people whoses lives are so empty that they feel important and influential when they spout their useless opinions in an open forum.

To bad that freedom of speech does not walk hand in glove with reason and intelligence.
arthur61
Report Comment 11:48am - Thu Nov 5th, 2009
@samspyder - Addicus, Shurtluff may have 70% approval rating but s most of the United States in 1787 where anti-federalist. The constitution is a federalist document and that was not what would have been accepted by the populous at the time. This document stopped the first civil war of the states. This document may not have been popular but it was the right thing to do. Although Shurtluff is popular he is still doing the wrong thing and should not be in politics. The United States right now need strong states men and less federalist in government. Most of the people in the United States are federalist believing in a strong centralized government and we the people need more of our problems solved at the local level and not in Washington D.C.( our modern day King George and his parliment.)
insightful +1
FindingUtah
Report Comment 5:07pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
Can you imagine what this comment board would be like if it wasn't anonymous?

Mack Allred
split vote 0
Gm-y
Report Comment 10:04pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@FindingUtah - Yes, it would be far more intelligent with a much higher percentage of posts that reflect, at the very least, a minuscule of thought.
ditto +2
Jason F.
Report Comment 6:54am - Thu Nov 5th, 2009
@FindingUtah - Yeah, we'd have crazies knocking at our doors. The anonymous thing is a good thing.
funny +2
MrTithingTroll
Report Comment 5:16pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
"Whether she survives ... me and my family, my wife are critical"...

«removed»are they doing to her...DCFS needs to investigate if she can survive him, his wife, and the family
troll -1
mbitsko2
Report Comment 9:03pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@MrTithingTroll - You are an ignorant boob. Consider shutting up if you don't know what you're talking about.
ditto +2
C.R.
Report Comment 5:31pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
Mark Shurtleff's office has put a lot of undeserving people through great pain. I don't wish family suffering on anyone, but I do hope that Mark Shurtleff's suffering helps him have more compassion on those his office has attacked and destroyed unjustly.
split vote 0
cockadoodydoo
Report Comment 5:58pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
Quitters are losers.
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Cockadoodydoo!
ditto +4
sharkee
Report Comment 6:29pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
Nobody is perfect. You people are all ridiculous.
My prayers go out to him and his family and especially his daughter.
ditto +2
terminhater
Report Comment 7:55pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
Hasn't his daughter's depression been a long term thing? Is it different now than it was six months ago?

He knew he was going to lose so he used his daughter as an excuse to QUIT.

If he can't even ride a Harley without having it fall over on his leg how does he expect to survive D.C.

LOSER!
ditto +2
DarkMatter
Report Comment 9:05pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@terminhater - RE: terminhater

To the first point, ditto
To the second point, ditto
To the third point, HUH.

My points;

What a crybaby

The top legal dude in Utah supports ILLEGAL immigration.... how stupid is that?

I hope he enjoys his remaining days in office, it will be his last public job.
disagree -3
mbitsko2
Report Comment 9:02pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
Now THERE is a man with his priorities straight. Kudos!

Daughters are more important than Senate seats.
huh? -6
informed mom
Report Comment 11:00pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
I am glad he is putting his family first! Too bad others can't see what a great man he really is.
ditto +2
T shane
Report Comment 12:00am - Thu Nov 5th, 2009
@informed mom - You know nothing about what a power hungry individual Mr Shurtleff has been. As a government employee, he has been anything BUT a "great man." You need to look at more than one aspect of this. He probably saw that he could not beat Bennett and his daughter is just an excuse. I hate to burst your feel-good fantasy though.
ditto +5
MyOpinion4U
Report Comment 6:26am - Thu Nov 5th, 2009
When it comes to a man's child, the child should always comes first - I respect Mr Shurtleff on this position, as most people will. I wish the best for his child .
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My infinite wisdom is only overshadowed by my modesty
split vote 0
Perspicacious progressive
Report Comment 7:42am - Thu Nov 5th, 2009
@MyOpinion4U - Agreed. Despite politics, stepping aside personal advancement for the advancement and health of the family is commendable.
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Donald Rumsfeld is a Stress Position
insightful +1
Deli llama
Report Comment 8:54am - Thu Nov 5th, 2009
Time to move on...Bennett is a has been.
insightful +2
Gene T.
Report Comment 9:32am - Thu Nov 5th, 2009
Publicly stating your daughter has depression is an attempt to gain public sympathy shows how large his ego is. Why not say he's leaving the race for family reasons ? Bet there's some dirt about him and his pals Carl Wimmer and Korver (the free capitalist) coming down the road. The guy is a blow hard.
Wendy from good 'ole Utah
Report Comment 9:35am - Thu Nov 5th, 2009
I wonder why Attorney Purser is sueing Shurtless for $13M...what really goes on behind those closed doors.

Shurtleff condoned the kidnapping of six children and attempted murder of myself some years back.

Perhaps some dirt is being flung his way for mighty good reasons.

I am an innocent raped/tortured/crippled by the cops/incest victim and Shurtleff helped to hide it so far.

What a gutless____to blame his little girl for his incompetence.

I believe Shurtleff is presently being scrutinized by our Federal Disability/Discrimination/Civil Rights Commissions in Washington D.C. regarding my personal case.

I believe the reason Mark Shurtleff likes illegal immigration to stand in Utah is because then he has someone to blame for the multi-million dollar hemp crops that probably has survived in tact ever since Brigham Young's day in the hay.

Now also, people on their four-wheelers in our federal parks, must be careful because they just might trip up Tooele/Garfield Counties' natural resource being further raped from Americans.

But then of course, even those little invisible individuals escape Utah's Death Penalty yearly as the beat goes on.

Good ridding Markie - news like this helps we depressed individuals cope with life a little more readily.

Now if we can just find some true honesty in leadership within our Great Nation..I might fully recover from the affliction along with the children's hardship and suffering.

Again, licensed pedophiles by Utahns were able to wreak their havoc on my babies, and so far get away with it because of Shurtleff and the likes thereof.

Shurtleff probably endorses the internet child predators too that Oprah brought to light last summer.

Thank God Almighty for the U.S. Task Forces to have been established in order to put this Satan in its cage for life!

I sincerely pray for God to please have mercy on their souls. Amen.

I also pray that Mark Shurtleff and Jamie Allred, Jr. proceed to prison for their Obstruction Of Justice, along with one-hundred inter-woven John Does within my case.

The John Does either put up false police reports against me back then or refused to testify to the Truth.

Jamie Allred, Jr. always left his Highway Patrol car parked in front of his parents' house as they grew alot of weed back then. Now it is hiding in Iraq!

Amen.
ThaddeusPSnodgrass
Report Comment 9:50am - Thu Nov 5th, 2009
to Wendy from good "ole Utah"
While I find that shurtleff is a contemtptible swine for his politics, and I AM glad he's leaving the race, your comments are nonsensical and appear to have been written under the influence of some intoxicant of which you speak.
I think Shurtleff should concentrate on his family and the care his daughter needs, I applaud him for that, I find his actions as AG for Utah to be nothing short of sheer incompetence.
He's nothing more than a younger version of Bennett while not looking so ghoulish.
Wendy's comments on the other hand, remind me precisely WHY we need flouride in the water here in Utah. Will Wendy ever stop being a "victim", she wears it like a "badge of honor" on these posts.
ditto +1
TCCM
Report Comment 9:53am - Thu Nov 5th, 2009
If you couldn't afford mental health care for your daughter would you think more about fighting for our mental health facilities staying open and funds to help cover the cost for those who need mental treatment? Utah has cut the funds from the mental health budget - leaving thousands without proper treatment. I think, Mr. Shurtleff, you would fight to the death to assure that these facilities had proper funding if you couldn't afford it-
Wendy from good 'ole Utah
Report Comment 10:28am - Thu Nov 5th, 2009
Thank God for small favors! Now tell us Your namesake! ThaddeusPSnodgrass!!
Wendy from good 'ole Utah
Report Comment 10:38am - Thu Nov 5th, 2009
I do it for the victims; the infants; the speechless Human Beings, of whom have not yet acquired language.
Wendy from good 'ole Utah
Report Comment 11:07am - Thu Nov 5th, 2009
Bingo!
Wendy from good 'ole Utah
Report Comment 11:23am - Thu Nov 5th, 2009
Thanks KSL.COM, NORML Advocacy Group, MPP Blog, Google, and The Great State of Utah; U.S.A.
ThaddeusPSnodgrass
Report Comment 12:57pm - Thu Nov 5th, 2009
Yes, Wendy, we "get it" you need the validation for your own "issues". Most people deal effectively with it, and act repsonsibility, others sing the shrill siren song of hypocrisy incessantly.
Wendy from good 'ole Utah
Report Comment 1:10pm - Thu Nov 5th, 2009
Okay Paula Sodergren Warr Reynolds, we get it too!
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