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Prosecutors say witnesses will show Mitchell is faking
Federal prosecutors say lay witnesses can prove that Brian David Mitchell is faking psychological problems to avoid prosecution for the kidnapping of Elizabeth Smart.
November 4th, 2009 @ 8:30am
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lauraturner
Report Comment 8:35am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
The best part is that someone is allowing him to have that uncontrollable beard in order to LOOK crazy, in addition to acting crazy. Please force him to shave his beard or I will find him and shave it for him.
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Weeniedog55
Report Comment 8:38am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@lauraturner - Shave his beard and he will look really "Smart"...
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LeDuc
Report Comment 8:39am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@lauraturner - This is retarded. The psychological card is way too much these days. I'm going to rob a few banks and say I'm not psychologically there.
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I'm not a coward I've just never been tested. I'd like to think that if I was I would pass.
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The voice of reason
Report Comment 8:38am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@lauraturner - I wonder what NAMI thinks of all this.
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Enforce The Law!
Report Comment 8:38am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@lauraturner - This guy is no dummy. He's trying to operate from John Hinckley Jr.'s playbook that have paid off huge for that guy.
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nortel
Report Comment 8:41am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@lauraturner - I KNEW HE'S BEEN A FAKE THIS ENTIRE TIME
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Eichhoernchen
Report Comment 8:50am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@lauraturner - I really don't care whether or not he is competant. He is a menace and a danger to society and needs to be dealt with accordingly.
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lindairish
Report Comment 8:53am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@lauraturner - What a surprise! On this board, we have been saying this for years. They should have just asked us. And yes, shave the beard and cut the hair.
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Sneaky Pete
Report Comment 9:01am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@lauraturner - Why is this news, there are many cases that need attention but the media chooses to feed on this worthless story. The media needs to help solve some cold case files and parade the Smart case like a circus, what a joke.
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K Jay
Report Comment 9:01am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@lauraturner - The beard and hair are just a part of his strategy to not end up in a federal penitentiary. He is no dummy. He is a calculating and conniving man trying to get what he wants.
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Deebo
Report Comment 9:09am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@lauraturner - The only thing not fake about Mitchell....is his beard...and it's just plain icky!

Get this over, quit wasting our tax $$$, and get rid of him!
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Steve S.
Report Comment 10:51am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@lauraturner - castrate then lobotomize if he is not competent to make him safe in society.

Otherwise run a regular trial and get him punished...
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Truth Prevails
Report Comment 10:53am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@lauraturner - The problem with your logic is if they can force him to violate his religious beliefs no matter how crazy they may seem, Where will they stop? Or at what line do they cease? Your belief is one of a slippery slope thats very dangerous. The government has NO RIGHT to FORCE us to change or violate our religious beliefs. If I recall right thats one of our founding tenets of freedom right?

I dont like the guy either persay, But once you start crossing the lines it dont stop... remember germany 1930-1940's?

I love how liberals are ALWAYS so quick to scream freedom from religion when morality is being taught anywhere in public, But its not freedom from but freedom OF. Very big difference but I guess libs dont have the mental capacity to understand the difference in the 2.
This means he has the RIGHT to have a long beard, As thats how the old testament hebrews wore theirs albeit better kept obviously. But he is in jail there aint much you can do there with it lol.
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FMS0512
Report Comment 11:10am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@lauraturner - I just say "fry him"!
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Sugarbutt92
Report Comment 11:18am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@lauraturner - It is about time someone finally used their brain and is able to admit that this nut is def. not a nut and has all his facilities about him....

Now convict this SOB and put him at the oldest hotel in Utah with no check out date.
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Cindy Miska
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OBAMAisFAILURE
Report Comment 11:25am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@lauraturner - please.... firing squad. then burn the body. i will provide the bullets for the .45, and 2 gallons of gasoline. i am tired of this waste of life wasting our money.
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Mountain Guy
Report Comment 8:37am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
So, tell us something we don't know. On with the trial already!!!
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little-andy
Report Comment 8:37am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
Maybe the need to pick out a good song to sing. How about school thy feelings? These Lawyers went to school for years. They should be able to figure it out. This case should be solved by at least 2019..
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I Can't Beleve It
Report Comment 8:37am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
No, Really were spending all this tax money on this case so far.. and now your telling us he has been faking all this time. Put him in the chair
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Diana W.
Report Comment 8:38am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
I hope this will finally go to court. I am sick and tired of this. The guy not only kidnapped her, he gave a minor drugs and alcohol and raped her repeatedly. The sadest part about the trials is that some defense lawyer actually has to represent this piece of human waste. Pathetic.
When will laws and punishment against pedifiles show that children actually matter in America?
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john01
Report Comment 8:39am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
He is faking!!
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Andrew073099
Report Comment 8:40am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
strap this SCUMB to the chair and end it allready!
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Outspoken
Report Comment 8:45am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
Insanity that can be turned off and on at will? Faking it? Sounds like my wife.
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David H.
Report Comment 8:49am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@Outspoken - My wife gets headaches that come and go at will...
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Jim L.
Report Comment 9:10am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@Outspoken - My kids get ill every Saturday at chore time. They haven't tried the insane singing--that would probably work as well.
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agelessrocker
Report Comment 8:47am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
Everybody but the Justice System already knows he is faking.......c'mon already
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It always looks the darkest before it turns pitch black.
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Carolyn S.
Report Comment 8:52am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
Someone need to take him down, and shave off all that ugly hair..Then he would feel better. He is a nasty human being.
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David H.
Report Comment 8:55am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
He and Charles Manson could be twins. They're identical!
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Mike The KID
Report Comment 9:06am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
Crazy or not, he still needs to be brought to justice. Which should be a long drop from a short rope!
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Ed D.
Report Comment 9:09am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
One bullet to the head. Problem solved.
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park11
Report Comment 9:10am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
he's a freak! i bet he is totally enjoying this game he's playing! why can't anyone see it! look how long he's delayed everything! well if anything he's taught everyone, that if you sing in a court room they will think your crazy! then they will give you a place to stay with your own private room, meals served to you daily, and if you sing enough you just might be set for life! come on! let's dig a big hole in the west desert and drop him in there, and see how long he sings then! or dress him up in robes and use him for target practice!
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mparker
Report Comment 9:11am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
David H, If your wife is faking headaches, you should look more closely at yourself.
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Uinta-hiker
Report Comment 9:15am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
He tries to dress like a Fakir but he's just a faker. How about a shovel, a .22, and a visit to the western desert? Bada bing bada boom, end of story!
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bets
Report Comment 9:15am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
He has been wasting our time and money way tooooo long. The court system is the ones that are nuts for wasting all these yrs on a worthless piece of garbage. He should have been hung years ago and let the family move on.
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OhU812?
Report Comment 9:22am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
All along, I knew this was going to happen!!!!

The Smarts aren't so Smart!!!!

Ed is a thief!!!

You wait and see!!!!
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Jamaicachicken
Report Comment 10:11am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@OhU812? - Idiot..
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Chris J.
Report Comment 4:54pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@OhU812? - Ed told him to do it. Ed has caught up on his bills after all his 14 year old daughter was gone for 9 MONTHS. The public does not get it but the sisters do and they understand but, it does not make it right Edward!

Now Edward come rub Mommy's feet like a good boy!
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GoldSoft
Report Comment 9:25am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
It's ridiculous! If you act crazy enough, you can literally do whatever you want without being punished!

I am embarrassed for the supposed psychological experts who say this guy should not be tried for his crimes. He has duped you and good. Apparently, he's smarter than you are.
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monsterhappy
Report Comment 10:14am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@GoldSoft - Huh... so you're saying that mentally sound people molest kids?
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Rick W.
Report Comment 9:29am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
I'm sure Mitchell laughs to himself at "outsmarting" all of those psychiatrists, counselors, lawyers, and judges who think he is actually mentally ill. He knows exactly what he's doing.
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Ray B.
Report Comment 10:26am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@Rick W. - Not to mention the deal he has with his lawyers. They will get a percentage of his book deal, and get to appear on Oprah with him!
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George C.
Report Comment 9:44am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
Faking???? Ya think. Some one finally got a clue. Oh well better latter than not at all.
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monsterhappy
Report Comment 10:10am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
Faking? Are you saying that it's normal for people to molest kids? I think anyone who molests kids has issues.
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BHD
Report Comment 11:30am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@monsterhappy - Very insightful. Of course someone who molests kids has issues. The issue here is whether he's faking insanity to escape the legal consequences. Certainly he's not faking that he's a sex offendor.

*if/when he's found competent they should pluck every hair from his head and face one by one. I'm not saying that should be his sentence, but should just serve to make him presentable in a court room.
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Eric J.
Report Comment 10:15am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
Can't we just kill the guy. Why are we wasting time in court every month when its obvious he abducted Smart. There are other cases to deal with also.
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Redwolf
Report Comment 10:25am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
I know a number of guards at the SLC jail that have had to watch over this piece of crap and they say he is plain evil, there is nothing insane about him.

Just let me pay for the bullet, heck I'll even pull the trigger and save the tax payers all this money and hassle.
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Rro22
Report Comment 10:42am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
Put this moron in prision already!! The guys in the slammer will take care of him..
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Jeff D.
Report Comment 10:56am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
I think he needs to be roommates in prison with Hoffman and Lafferty. And, right next door to them, they can have the former LDS bishops and scout leaders that couldn't leave kids alone. Maybe they can exchange book of mormon passages.
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Truth Prevails
Report Comment 10:58am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
Oh and btw you know whats ironic? is how everyone is going after him and not looking deeper into the whole story on how miss smart was abducted in the first place... Its kinda creepy and if you ever paid attention to her dad you just get a strange feeling as if he knew the whole time about his daughter being "Kidnapped" My ex wife whose father has been an lds bishop for years spoke with Ed and a few others while she was gone and she said something just didnt sit right with her and Ed smart and what he told her... And she is the most liberal of lds reared people in that aspect. So that says alot to me right there. Not to mention the whole Richard Ricci(sp?) incident..
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GODS INSPIRED WORD
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mnarich
Report Comment 11:07am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
I met this guy on the street sometime before the kidnapping. With his beard, long hair and robes he asked me for a handout. I said, "What, specifically, do you want?"

He replied in a saintly tone, "Whatever is in thy heart to give."

I said, "You're going to have to be more specific."

He repeated, again with a saintly tone, "Whatever is in thy heart to give."

I thought, "two can play at this game," so I repeated MYSELF again in as kindly and as saintly a voice I could muster.

After we each repeated ourselves a few more times, he finally faltered in his facade, his face briefly took on an angry/disgusted expression and he gave up and walked away. A pretty good faker, but any psychologist worth his/her salt should be able to get past such crap (I have a Ph.D. in psychology now, but back then I was "just" a psychology student).
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beautifulblueeyes
Report Comment 11:27am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
of coarse he is faking!!! how can people not see it? i can burst into song interupting people to seem crazy too! its not that hard. he really just needs to go to jail for the rest of his life...
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Eric J.
Report Comment 12:15pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@beautifulblueeyes - why throw him in jail and treat him so well. shoot him its a lot cheaper and I am sure we could find people to do it.
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Homer j. simpson
Report Comment 11:29am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
Federal prosecutors have lined up witnesses in an attempt to prove that Brian David Mitchell is faking psychological problems to avoid prosecution for the kidnapping of Elizabeth Smart.


Geee....How many people here have been saying this since this started? I know I have...

He knows what he's doing!
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One good thing about Alzheimers...you get to meet new people everyday!
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willywonka86
Report Comment 11:32am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
yes he may be crazy I mean obviously but is that an excuse for his actions. Sorry not it my book. Can't believe there is any question. FRY HIM.
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Ion Reaper
Report Comment 11:34am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
After this man is sentenced (hopefully soon) he should have a man from Singapore "CANE" him 3 times daily for the next 30 years......Fetchin conman!
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Wik
Report Comment 11:37am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
Isn't anyone else sick of the merciless preying on the charity of a merciful society? Our justice system is failing in my opinion.
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BullyBreeder
Report Comment 11:46am - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
This really bothers me ... This guy is really crazy and if you have lived in salt lake the past 15years you can attest too this this guy used to hang around down town and pass out nuts and berries in a white robe with a rope and fannie pack around his waist chanting pslams from the bible... If that aint crazy I dont know what is? and besides what happened to the smart dad who he should have been prosecuted he paid the guy to teach her wierd things and he just soo happen to take her to his hide out in the moutains ... I mean this story is really old and just wasteing tax dollars.
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Disgusted American
Report Comment 12:06pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
Don't waste any more time just hang the SOB!
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notfromutah54
Report Comment 12:07pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
"Bailiff...whack his pee-pee..."
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Little_Voice
Report Comment 3:30pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@notfromutah54 - Eww, he'd probably like that, Cheech.
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john.ericson
Report Comment 12:18pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
good
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Ray B.
Report Comment 12:25pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
Hey Ed. What do you think would happen if you invited this guy into your home. Not to mention all the other weirdo's you have had working on the grounds.
Like where do you find these people?
Was'nt Richard Ricci scary enough!
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Glassblower42
Report Comment 2:01pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@Ray B. - Here we go with the "blame the victims" routine.
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Zach P.
Report Comment 12:29pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
This is why I do not like Lawyers. These guys are defending Mitchell so he does not have to pay a price for what he has done to Elizabeth or many others girls. If he is competent enough to leave the state of Utah and TRAVEL to California and survive and then TRAVEL back to Utah again (EVADING THE LAW) and still make a living he is definitely competent to stand trial!

Do you think he would burst out randomly into songs while traveling? Probably not but seems to do it when he's on trial!

Courts need to look at the psychological card and re-evaluate it.
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gb0923
Report Comment 12:40pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
       If he is not held competent to stand trial on November 30th, our country is in the wrong hands.  He was competent enough to hide this girls for nine months, he was competent enough to develop a plan to steal her, and he was competent while he was in jail in California.  This man is totally competent, and anyone who doesn't think so is blinded.  And that beard is hideous they need to cut it off.   
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Huckchess
Report Comment 12:47pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
This guy has been faking all along. He's a very intelligent, cold, calculating criminal who exploits other people to get what he wants. The sooner he goes to prison the better.
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Knight of Shadow
Report Comment 12:48pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
Hmm...prosecutors must have been reading on this mesaage board. People have known for years that he's faking.

Rocket scientists lawyers are not.....
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Grant. P.
Report Comment 1:30pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
One bullet to the head...lights out...NEXT CASE!
indiscreetinsanpete
Report Comment 6:46pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@Grant. P. - Grant P are you a relative of Jack Ruby?
Grant. P.
Report Comment 9:24am - Thu Nov 5th, 2009
@Grant. P. - Yes, great guess!
BTW, I also am beer drinking buddies with the shooter on the grassy knoll.
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Marc M.
Report Comment 1:58pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
This case is a prime example of what a total joke the legal system in this country has become. People are being required to cut back and conserve in all areas except in the legal system where waste of taxpayers money is Mitchell is guilty. This case an others like it are drug out by the free defense attorneys and social workers so they can continue to draw a paycheck at taxpayers expense. This nonsense really needs to be stopped.
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Marc M.
Report Comment 2:12pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
My previous blog was supposed to say: People are being asked to cut back and conserve in all areas except in the legal system where waste of taxpayers money is at an all time high. There is not a person reading this who doesn't know Mithcell is guilty. (somehow the sentence was cut off)
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pdaddy
Report Comment 3:21pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
I like what the prosecutors are trying to do here.
I agree, this guy is the biggest manipulator i've ever seen, a smoke screen and stall tactics.

It's time to put this guy in the dirt and give the Smart Family some closure
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legalpot
Report Comment 3:38pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
Anyone know when Star Treck comes out on video??
Buddha
Report Comment 4:29pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
@legalpot - Nov 17
mnarich
Report Comment 4:24pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
The question isn't whether he's "crazy" (as someone pointed out, anyone who commits such a horrible crime is "crazy"), but whether he is competent to stand trial--meaning he can understand the ramifications of his actions. That he hid from the law is proof enough for me that he understood that he was breaking it. That he sneaked in to the Smart home in the night, threatened Elizabeth if she made any noise, hid out in the mountains, left the state, etc., shows that he understood that he would be in deep doodoo if he was caught.

An incompetent person would be less likely to go to such length to hide their crimes.

Incompetent example:

"Did you commit the crime?"

"Duh...crime?"

"Did you take the girl from her house?"

"Duh...yeah...she my friend."


Competent example:

"Did you commit the crime?"

"La la la...[can't you see how incompetent I am?]

"Ok...would you take some medication to restore your competence?"

"Heck no!"

"What about a burger and some fries?"

"Sure!"
Donald Duck 62
Report Comment 4:41pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
Nearly 7 years since they arrested this man. Haven't we waisted enough tax money on this creature. I think our judicial system is so lame. He made that young girl suffer for 9months and he gets 3 square meals a day and a warm place to sleep. Toast him like a marshmallow.
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you matter
Report Comment 4:57pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
The punishment should fit the crime. who cares if he's crazy or not. That is something that is understood about all inmates. Sentence him all ready.
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carnivorous
Report Comment 5:57pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
Most people shave, find a white shirt, tie, and 3 piece suit before they see the judge.

NOT Mitchell, His appearance and songs are his only defense!

PUT ME ON THE JURY!!!!!!!!!!
**WENDY**
Report Comment 6:08pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
unfortunatly I know this guy I worked with him for a few years, he is FAKING it! But then again he was a big wierdo when I knew him too..... string him up and back charge him for wasting taxpayers money for putting up with his sorry #@#@#@!
indiscreetinsanpete
Report Comment 6:37pm - Wed Nov 4th, 2009
I will be happy to borrow the court a roll of duct tape. Tape this idiots mouth shut, so he can listen to the charges against him and get the judicial process underway. This whole facade has made a joke out of our system of justice. The evidence against this clown is overwhelming...so what if he has a screw loose, I live in a conservative area of Utah and most of my neighbors are not playing with a full deck. That does not mean that they should not be held accountable for their actions.
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