I don't think Jeffs will ever see the light of day again. If a man has more than one wife he's thought of as strange and it's socially unacceptable. When he starts marrying 13 and 14 year old girls he ends up in a blue jump suit handcuffed in a court room.

@jerwall79 - Why did I get trolled for my comment? Do people think marrying 13 and 14 year old girls is okay?

@jerwall79 - If they don't have more than one, how will they take thier place in the heavens. I know the good book has changed because of public views, but it's still pushed on followers of LDS members. It's funny how we place cash we take in over what we beleive in. Next we'll say we love all gays as long as they give cash at sunday meetings.

@jerwall79 - I really think Jeffs doesn't have much to say that's gonna do him any good. In a way he's almost making himself look like a bigger idiot lol

@jerwall79 - keeperofmanywifes apparently you do not attend LDS meetings. Polygamy is not pushed on anyone of the LDS faith.

And no, the gays will not be able to buy their way into righteousness.

@jerwall79 - Andrew G.
It is my legitamite concern that the financially backed gay mafia will be able to intimiidate and buy off the law makers allowing them to obligate any and all churches, including the Mormons to marry them in the temple.
I hope I am wrong thinking this way.

@jerwall79 - UnderJamz the only thing that would happen is that the LDS church would stop performing marriages period before they started marrying gay couples. They would have their members get civil marriages and then seal them in the temple under a religious-only ordinance, which no government can ever force them to do for anyone.

@jerwall79 - All these comments have got me thinking. If the founder of the LDS faith preached polygamy and all the early big wigs were practicing polygamist, how did it come to be that the church no longer endorses the practice of plural wives?
Women libbers must have snuck in!

@jerwall79 - andrewg.. I hide in there just like the next guy. sign the little book do my time, but understand the book change to get more people to give up cash at meetings. It's not like this didn't happen in other groups. There was a time you could go on any street coner and here someone thumping on what they think is the truth.
I'm not knocking you. we came to the new lands seeking freedoms. You got yours I got mine. The issue is, you'll pay in the basket each week, the pres will get rich. He'll take his seat because he has chick on the side (close door wifes) and you won't make it up the ladder becuse your not looking at the picture.

@jerwall79 - keeperofmanywifes you are so deluded in your perception it's scary.

And since you are such an expert on the LDS, what basket?

@jerwall79 - The prophets must be rolling in their graves.

@jerwall79 - Let him rot in JAIL!!! What a sick F'R. This guy's brain is infested by demonds, mold and fecies.

jerwall79

Not sure what you are saying here??

Any man that has more than one wife is strange and it is socially unacceptable except for some folks here in Utah who think it is OK. Also, if a man marries a 13 or 14 year old girl, he is sick my friend. In the sense of "Right and Wrong", these acts don't require much thought if you were brought up in a decent home environment with morals and manners.

With regard to the story at hand, I think it is interesting how the court has skirted around the polygamy issue. In other words, Jeffs was convicted of rape but at the same time the court has never ruled against polygamy so therefore could you say that polygamy is not illegal in Utah? Just a thought.

Also, you should note that most folks from other states are keeping a careful eye on these hearings because they are not the usual faire except for Utah.

Utah was asked to stop polygamy in order to gain statehood but has it really stopped???

I don't know if Joseph Smith ever intended polygamy to be such an issue as it is. I think it should cause a church member to reflect on human values, as they call them, and decide once and for all if polygamy is really an acceptable practice and a God like value???

@Bob H. - The problem the courts have with sticking a polygamy charge to any of the FLDS is because they marry and divorce then marry another or have "spiritual marriages" that don't fall under the guidelines of the law. So technically these guys are not married to their other wives and as such would need to be prosecuted for adultery.

However since many of their "wives" are underage and they do consummate the so called marriage this falls under the statutory rape laws.

@Bob H. - SSGT.Again this people where using the Old testament to indulge themselfs in their polygamy practices! the truth is that in the Old testament God did give permission to have plural wifes, but that was AFTER.. he had vanished the world in water.remember? it was just a few survivors IN that NOAH'S ARK! So...they needed to multiply ! but, after that. With the "New Testament" in force !it was supoused to STOP that polygamy practice.but again the LDS just took the parts in the Bible that where CONVENIENT FOR THEM!(Joseph Smith) they just wanted to keep indulging in it! and so the rest of the FLDS. Is this make sence?

@Bob H. - If 2 adult women want to marry the same adult man and all are in agreement, it should be no one's business but their own.

Jeffs looks great.
All that fasting is really paying off.
Where is his god now anyways?

@UnderJamz - Under Jams. His.. is SATAN! and satan is traveling right now to the Country of Ruanda.(doing a lot of nasty killings)

@UnderJamz - I just have one question chica. Are you high on the crack rock right now?

Andrew G. I'm glad someone on ksl this morning actually has their head on straight. Isn't it funny how those who don't attend Lds meetings and really don't know anything about the LDS faith seem to know it all?

Are we to be regaled with this jerk for ever? Throw him in the hole and pour concrete in it.

you disagree? please enlighten me as to why, I'm dying to know

@Kenneth M - Because it's common knowledge that those who are not members of the LDS church automatically know more than those who are. That applies to everything. People who aren't in politics known more than senators, people who don't work in education know more than teachers, people who have never been in the military know how to win wars, and people who have never been to a mormon church know more about it than any mormon who ever lived.

Why is it that scum like Warren Jeffs and Brian David Mitchell get to have these long, drawn out eternal trials that never really seem to end, while the pothead next door who only poses a real threat to an unopened bag of tostitos can be tried, sentenced, and be serving his jail time in less than a month?

@wilco64256 - Becasue he spent his money on pot and tostitos when he should have saved it for lawyers.

Is this group related to Warren Jeff's FLDS?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtrH-smrRV4

How can you say that Plural Marriage is unethical when Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob practised it long before the Savior came to earth. I don't see anything in the words of the Savior saying it is wrong. It's only the wicked people of the present who judge others according to their own rotten minds!

@visionary - Correct!! It's all about cash. Mock my words Gays will be married in the temple next. The Mormons new motto should be " SHOW ME THE MONEY".

@visionary - "Mock my words"??? Yeah, I think many will and do!

This has gone on long enough!
Call down vengence from Heaven, Oh great Warren!
I know you last prediction of the end of time didnt fulfill because of the wickedness of the people.
You taught that you are a great Prophet. Like Abraham, Isaac, And Jacob, so get off your axe and Smight the wicked sinners. O great one!

@Ray B. - Oh crap! I forgot you told your brother in jail. That you were not a Prophet, and a evil man!
Which Warren do I follow?

If they hadn't of sat an alternate juror after deliberations started he may have gotten a longer sentence. He should let well enough alone.

@slcgramps - He should have received 6 months and 3 years probation.

WHY DOES KSL A LDS OWNED WEBSITE KEEP FLAUNTING SEXUAL PICTURES IN THEIR ADS? MANY OF THE IMAGES THAT SHOW UP IN THE RIGHT SIDE COLUMN ARE VERY PROVOCATIVE AND OFFENSIVE IN NATURE BOTH FOR MALES AND FEMALES. WHATS THE DEAL KSL?

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just FYI - if you go to the Utah Courts website.... you can listen to the arguments live. if you want to know what is really argued.

utcourts.gov

@My 02 - I'd rather not know what is really being argued. I rarely read the article and most times I don't even bother to finish the headline. My opinion is as pure and correct as the day I formed it from the void, and I'm not about to let anything corrupt it.

I think Warren Jeffs is a wacko but I also believe he was railroaded in this case. Come on: rape as an accomplice? Is there really such a thing? Why were the parents of the girl who was allegedly raped not prosecuted. If anyone was guilty of being an accomplice it was them. Any parent who would allow their 14 year old daughter to marry an adult needs their head examined.

what did the court want here. how many young girls he messed up!!!!!!!!

YAWN.....WHO CARES? WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF THE THOUSANDS OF CULT MEMBERS IN SALT LAKE, AND STOP WORRYING ABOUT JEFFS..ENOUGH ALREADY.

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@remotecontrol - What cult would that be?

@remotecontrol - The cult of personality.
or maybe the Osiris cult.
possibly the Thrill Kill Kult
could be the Blue Öyster Cult
probably just The Cult
but I'm pretty sure they are based in the UK not SLC

I mean honestly I don't agree with anything the LDS church does in my mind that church is a cult.

@Eric A. - What's your definition of a cult?

I agree with you Eric A. Based on my personal experience with LDS people....it seems very much like a cult.

Jeffs actually did nothing wrong or illegal. The conviction is completely biased and should be reversed even if you DON'T take into account the religious freedom aspect. So if I tell people to get married and they do, then I'm a rapist? What garbage. People will sheepishly defend anything that government does, even if it is a totally unjust and nonsensical conviction. At the very least, he should get a FAIR trial somewhere nowhere near utah, because utahns are out to "get" the polygamists (out of blatant hypocrisy because most utahns have ancestors who were polygamists.

@T shane - You're saying that it's okay for Jeffs to perform illegal marriages because of religious reasons?

He performed a marriage that was illegal. By definition it is illegal. How can you say it is not illegal?

@T shane - T shane: Yes in fact, Jeffs did do several illegal acts. Not only did he counsel an underage CHILD to marry but he also performed the marriage ceremony between that child and the pedophile who was her cousin knowing full well it would be "consumated" (child rape)before she reached the age of legal consent. He's no different than any other sex offender at the point of the mountain. The only people being "nonsensical" are those poor souls who are deluded so much as to think Jeffs is/was some kind of prophet.

Furthermore, In 1879 the U.S. Supreme court ruled that "polygamy" is not a protected practice in regards to freedom of religion.

Eric A. If in your mind the LDS church is a cult, then your mind is dull. Do you understand the meaning of cult? Do you really understand the LDS church? Or, are you just responding to what you think you know?

Actually, show something in your words that would indicate you understand what you are talking about. Or, shut your gobber.

And, Farrico. How could a dull wit like you be able to pass judgement on anything?

Warren Jeffs.. the Modern day Joseph Smith....

I think they should uphold the conviction. Now on another note--I agree with whoever posted that if multiple consenting adults want to ruin their lives and all be married to one dude or chick for that matter---who cares? don't we live in the us? aren't we free to choose what we do--even if it is kinda strange? keep in mind though--i said CONSENTING ADULTS---not 14 year old girls.

@JIGGA - The polygamy dorks always in the end involve under age girls because they are all closet pedophiles.

I'm not pro flds or pro polygamy or pro anything involved with this story. I'm simply reminding people who are so disgusted by the beliefs of the FLDS to simply look at where they started. These beliefs were not created by the FLDS they were the works of Joseph Smith. The FLDS are doing nothing different than what happened during the times of Brigham Young, John Taylor and Wilford Woodruff. The FLDS, just like Lorenzo Snow [5th President of the LDS Church], didn't give up polygamy after Woodruff issued his manifesto in 1890. I don't understand why people in the LDS Church are so disgusted by polygamy and yet are so blind to their own heritage.

Joseph Smith Jr. [The Prophet, Seer and Revelator] married to:
Fanny Alger in 1833 [age 16]
Sarah Ann Whitney in 1842 [age 17]
Flora Ann Woodworth in 1833 [age 16]
Helen Mar Kimball in 1843 [age 14]
Nancy Winchester in 1843 [age 14]

Yes, the FLDS are sick! But who taught them their beliefs?

Gods ways are not mans ways,mans ways are not Gods ways. Man is a enemy to God.People should get their minds out of the gutter.Go Warren freedom is coming.

@not guilty - Are you planning to Break him out of prison????

@not guilty - Are you planning to Break him out of prison????