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Summer vacations may require passport
Starting June 1, Americans will need a passport to travel to Canada, Mexico, Bermuda and the Caribbean countries.
March 27th, 2009 @ 6:05pm
By Randall Jeppesen
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Prince Ali
6:20pm - Sun Mar 15th, 2009
It would be nice if we required everybody from these countries to have a passport to come to America.

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123go
6:59pm - Sun Mar 15th, 2009
@Prince Ali - The passport rule is not to get into those other countries but to get back into the states after visiting those countries

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TheLastLaugh
7:02pm - Sun Mar 15th, 2009
@Prince Ali - ...isn't THE PROBLEM THAT MEXICO REPRESENTS, but in order to be PC, the U.S. had to invoke this rule on a border that has states and provinces sharing much information from drivers license files. A Canada Border Services officer will know if someone from even the deep south has a DUI conviction on their record. The same could be said of a U.S. Customs & Border Protection Officer with respects to someone from the Quebec outback who has been nabbed by the RCMP for too many fights in hockey games or barroom brawls.
In addition to a passport, those crossing the border from Mexico need to know English!

Dcnielsen
6:27am - Mon Mar 16th, 2009
@TheLastLaugh - Canada is a popular entrance to the USA even for illegals. The reason apparently is that Canada accepts flights from countries the USA does not (ie Cuba) and is more open. For a certain fee your "service" that gets you into the USA sends you to Canada first (in some cases long enough to get residency there so that you can legally enter the USA.

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TheLastLaugh
12:21pm - Mon Mar 16th, 2009
@Dcnielsen - U.S. Customs & Border Protection officers can nab these people even under the current regulations of having a valid state/province drivers license and birth certificate or record. If someone living in Canada is originally from Pakistan, Iran or some other terrorist sponsoring nation they better have an approved visa from one of the consular offices if they wish to get in. MEXICO is and reamins the biggest probelm for illegal immigration into the U.S. and we've long needed to invoke the passport rule along our southern border, not to mention an English language litmus test. The problem is all the lawsuits from the Hispanic rights activists that would have come into play had they left Canada out of this initiative (think about that one---people like Tony Yapias). So being PC is the reason for including Canada which is a total crock of crap!

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chucke20
6:20pm - Sun Mar 15th, 2009
passport to Utah county isn't it a different country?

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TheLastLaugh
7:11pm - Sun Mar 15th, 2009
@chucke20 - ...Don't give these people there too many ideas since they want nothing more than to shelter their kids from the rest of the "real world!" :-)

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Rem
12:21am - Mon Mar 16th, 2009
@chucke20 - No. Same country. Different "world"

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Simon Cowels mean Brother
6:23pm - Sun Mar 15th, 2009
Cant we just jump the walls and cross the rivers like they do!--No Passports?

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Ordinary guy
6:52pm - Sun Mar 15th, 2009
All people of all countries worship us at our feet. Why should we have passports? The world belongs to us!

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DR DON
6:59pm - Sun Mar 15th, 2009
@Ordinary guy - it's to let you get back into THIS country.

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Simon Cowels mean Brother
7:33pm - Sun Mar 15th, 2009
@DR DON - so why do they check them going INTO the other countries?

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Max G.
8:03pm - Sun Mar 15th, 2009
@Simon Cowels mean Brother - They check them because you have them, but they want your tourist dollars and Dr. DON is correct, this isn't a issue of them requiring you have them this is a issue of your government requiring you have them to come home.

Sorry, but yes your government screws you again. You can run across the boarder with nothing for paperwork but to come in the front door your treated like the dirt you are.... a tax paying citizen.

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123go
9:28pm - Sun Mar 15th, 2009
@Simon Cowels mean Brother - because countries like Canada won't let you into their country unless they know you can leave. If you dont have a passport to get back home Canada denies you entry

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KKB
7:29pm - Sun Mar 15th, 2009
At what point do Americans become fed up with the bureaucracy and red tape from our Government???

Think about this:

- You can't travel outside of America unless you pay a fee

- You cannot return to America w/o paying (unless you sneak in)

- You cannot travel unless you REGISTER

- you cannot travel unless you apply for a permit

- you cannot travel unless you officially request it

- you cannot return until you pay taxes on whatever you bought


Seriously, I can't even go from Utah to Alaska without Uncle Sam getting in a twist???



Do you REALLY feel free anymore?

Are we as free as we were 20 years ago?

ARE WE GOING TO BE THIS "FREE" IN 20 MORE YEARS????






Scary....

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vapor_trail
11:50pm - Sun Mar 15th, 2009
@KKB - Welcome to the New World Order

Westty
2:54pm - Tue Mar 17th, 2009
@vapor_trail - Yes we can(sigh)

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Paulsgoddess
7:53pm - Sun Mar 15th, 2009
and also the new passports are chipped (RFID). They, as in the people who scan them, will be able to see all kinds of information about you. Our government is becoming "big brother" whether we like it or not.
Very scary...

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huhole
11:39pm - Sun Mar 15th, 2009
@Paulsgoddess - They can find that same information by typing in your name. Chips, barcodes, mag strips, just eliminate the need for all that typing and speed up the process of getting through immigration.
As one who has been in that line many times, I'm all for speeding up the process. However, I will draw the line when they want to insert a chip inside me.

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MyOpinion4U
8:13pm - Sun Mar 15th, 2009
SINCE i have to have a PASSPORT to go to Mexico now, the mexicians must have one to come here. GOOD DEAL

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steve151237
8:17pm - Sun Mar 15th, 2009
BUT I WILL NEVER TRAVEL TO OR SPEND ANOTHER DIME IN mEXICO AS LONG AS i LIVE.

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Max G.
10:22pm - Sun Mar 15th, 2009
@steve151237 - why? Because they made you defective CAPS key?

Wheelin'
10:48am - Thu Mar 19th, 2009
@steve151237 - HA HA, you skippe dth ecaps on M and I :P

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Clive R.
8:27pm - Sun Mar 15th, 2009
is another way of keeping track of your where abouts and should you exceed your stay from what you told immigration. They will come looking for you. I travel to the Caribbean, Bermuda, Mexico, Canada and South America a great deal. Most of the countries are very friendly. I have had more issues with certain states then any country. Having a passport is helpful when filing out an I-9 form.

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Iluthradanar
9:46pm - Sun Mar 15th, 2009
Will this hurt travel? Cruising for the weekend? The Caribbean islands? It should be good for places like Puerto Rico and such but this just makes traveling harder. Good thing I have no money and can't go anywhere anyway.

Mat C
9:38pm - Fri Mar 27th, 2009
@Iluthradanar - Iluthradanar,

Puerto Rico is part of the United States...you do not need a passport to travel to Puerto Rico. You just need a government issued photo ID...like a driver's license. You'll go through agriculture...but other then that...it's like going through any other U.S. state. Unless you are going on a boat somewhere outside Puerto Rico.

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jon
12:13am - Mon Mar 16th, 2009
I had to have a passport when i had a layover in canada last july. this actually happened a couple years ago i dont know how it is newsworthy again??? ksl where have you been the last year?

Rem
12:19am - Mon Mar 16th, 2009
See what happens if your visa expires and Mexico and word gets out that you're there illegally.

http://www.alipac.us/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=26677

atchoum
5:27am - Mon Mar 16th, 2009
I fought for a passport for years and now their at last going to be some use for it.

atchoum
5:45am - Mon Mar 16th, 2009
flaunting wealth don't always pay.

having kids out of control in Mexico and the usa too can be costly. Let him spend time there.
Who are the other families? they said four kids.
I personally love the back lash at mexico and I can 't wait for all the gnaccos to be send home. South America is full of wonderfull people, why do we have to deal with Mexico?

Pleasinreason
5:56am - Mon Mar 16th, 2009
Land of the Free?????????????????

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Ordinary guy
6:43am - Mon Mar 16th, 2009
@Pleasinreason - Don't worry about it. Just don't take your vacation in summer.

Westty
2:59pm - Tue Mar 17th, 2009
@Ordinary guy - I plan all my vacations for the spring and fall, and i never need my passport, but watch out once June 21st comes around.

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Backpage
6:00am - Mon Mar 16th, 2009
Makes sense, track americans but not illegal foreign nationals. The article said nothing about requireing a passpost to get back in to the US, just to enter other countries. America does not require passports or even a green card to cross our borders. The US has no intention of interfering with illegal aliens forcing their way across our borders. The US has long abandoned their rights of soverignty as a nation, borders are open to every illegal wishing to enter and become wards of the government and tax payers.

Corporate america says we have to have illegals to keep the american workers suppressed, out of jobs, and working for poverty income. We must keep illegals in the US to further damage our economy and keep us from recovering. The US government is dragging its feet and doing nothing to help the economy of the american workers. It's time for business to take a back seat and put the american people first or we will never see any economic recovery.

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I ShouldaKnown
6:26am - Mon Mar 16th, 2009
you'll need one for Wyoming for Cigs and Alcohol and Idaho for Lottery Tickets also!

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Billy_Jack
7:42pm - Fri Mar 27th, 2009
Guess I will just cut a hole in the fence and go to Mexico that way. Yeah that's right I will be an American illegal immigrant living in Mexico.

Antenna Girl
8:22pm - Fri Mar 27th, 2009
@Billy_Jack - It's where people GO on these passports that worry me. Dubai is very popular...you couldn't pay me to go there. Or Kuwait. Lebanon. Egypt. Morocco.

Need I say more.

Antenna Girl
9:33am - Sat Mar 28th, 2009
@Antenna Girl - Let me explain to those of you who aren't familiar with geography. The nations I mentioned are Islamic and Americans don't win any popularity contests there.

If I'm going to travel to a place that the American Embassy warns me about, I ain't going.

Passport or no passport, travel is very, very, risky now.
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