Biggest Impact There goes all those mission savings!

I disagree @straightagainst8 - maybe you were trying to make a joke... but most of the mission worthy men I know at 18 are not interested in blowing money like that.

I'm sorry but I just couldn't resist @wouldn't be prudent - No, their interested on blowing something else...

Since this is a Moral issue, @L C. - Utahn's should be encouraged to donate as much money as they can. The moral terptitude of other states is at risk and we need to defeat any law in other states that may be a sin.

Utah should make it illegal @Supernurseboy - for an 18 year old to ride LeBus. That should show them.

dumb statement. @Supernurseboy - I hope this law passes. Be a slap in the face for the Utah prudes that wont allow any type of gambling here in Utah. I don't care what religion is involved, I can have a beer.... I can smoke a cigerette, I should be able to play poker when I want to.

I am not even allowed to hose a CHARITY poker tournament because SOMEONE else feels they should dictate my moral outlook???? Retarded.

You don't want to gamble, then don't, but its not your right (or quite frankly none of your business) to tell me that I cant. Take your moral high horse and stuff it up your moral .....

What are laws for anyway? @Jimdorsin - Heck, let's change all the laws to say anything goes. They all prohibit some type of behavior or another and take away peoples rights. Gambling addictive? Who cares? It doesn't hurt anyone else if I bet the farm and my family ends up on the street. It doesn't hurt anyone else if I waste my time doing something negative when it could be used to do something productive. This is sarcasm by the way.

My real position is that instead of discussing lowering the gambling age limit, we should be discussing how to get this personality retarding practice out of the U.S.

@wouldn't be prudent - I think it was a joke man.

I think it is a great idea. They also need to lower the drinking age to 18. If you are an adult at 18 why can't you gamble, drink, or in Utah, smoke? I don't drink or smoke, and only rarely gamble, but I think it is ridiculous that 18 year olds aren't allowed to when they can join the military, vote, and join society.

Educated Disagreement @who? - I am a long time veteran of smoking, drinking, and gambling.

Smoking causes obvious health risks. With all the information available today, I think the only reason one has to smoke is to convey a rebellious attitude.

Drinking is a momentary escape used for fun, or to enjoy oneself, but you can't live in the wonderland forever. In my use, I have noticed it only causes major imbalance in my life. No good ever came from it, except for when I decided to not drink.

Gambling... Oh gambling. I've lost probably tens of thousands of dollars to gambling. And as someone above mentioned, we should donate more. It's funny how greed amassed in my life when I was addicted gambling.

It's been years since I've done any of these things, but they were all largely, a waste of time and unfulfilling.

Bottom line: Anything we can do to see less of these acts in our society is a good thing. I agree with the APA.

Hold on, bodaggits,..... @bodaggits23 - ...isn't gambling losses a form of donation?
Aren't you donating your monies (to Nevada's economy) when you gamble?...and at least you're getting something for your donation....even if it's just a deal of cards or a pull on a handle.

Plus, you've got a chance to win more than you gambled.

Drinking alcohol, while potentially dangerous, has some beneficial use, too.
You're supporting a global enterprise.
Most medical professionals will tell you that a modicum of alcohol can be a benefit to one's health.
Jesus didn't drink water at his sacraments.

Smoking?....It's kinda hard to put any benefit there, I'll agree.

These may seem weak arguments, especially when weighed against the potential negatives of each vise, but as Billy Joel once said in a song:
"I'd rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints."

...and laughter isn't bad...is it?

Big Love @Big Love - This might seem unrelated, but you have really got me curious. And I am serious in this question. Do your comments reflect your real position, or is your intent only to foster thinking, regardless of what your position is?

You dont have to gamble if you dont want to... @bodaggits23 - ...but, what gives you the right to tell me I cant? It should be an individuals decision. Not the government/church that runs this state. (in Utah, the terms are synomanous (SP?))

@Jimdorsin - The LDS church doesn't run this state. However, the state is influenced greatly by the beliefs of the LDS church. But does that really surprise you when you consider that we live in a democratic society? The fact that LDS people make up a majority of the population, and the fact that many of the laws and traditions of the state reflect many LDS beliefs, should give you some peace of mind, rather than a negative opinion. The reason is that is shows that democracy is strong in Utah.

But I must make it very clear that the LDS church does not run this state, or any other state. Utahns in general don't want gambling to be legal here, and so it isn't.

sure they are... @wouldn't be prudent - they just aren't telling the bishop about it. Don't kid yourself about the LDS teen morality... 19 year old boys are not spending all their free time reading scriptures and thinking righteous thoughts. If you think that every kid who goes on a mission is one step away from being translated then you must be living with your eyes closed in a cave. Why God decides to send boys off for two years of service at the peak of their sexual drive is beyond me. Why do you think they come home and get married so fast and start cranking out the kids? They are horney from two years of (assumed) depravation. They probably hit Wendover as soon as they get out from under the roof of their parent's house when they get home.

Hey JOE!! @Joe mamma - Check this out... I can really say I have mormon friends.. Not many but yes I do. Its funny you said why do missionaries go on a mission in their peak... I can tell you. They (My friends) went to the asian countries.. What did they do you might ask?? Got married. Now they have their own little asian counrty. I ask them about birth control... All I get back is WHY!!! More kids... More 10% now do ya get it?? they dont look bad on having kids you cant pay for because we the non mormons and the real tax payers will pay for them kids they cant afford. But when it comes to having a state that can do thing and have things like Cali, NV, Ga, and other states that have lotteries that pay for all most everything, and the church deems it inmoral... NO WAY BRUDDA... Cant have that here or anywhere... This entire state is a joke. The 80% alcohol tax wont pay for everything people get a life!!

Sorry you are moving, "Right" @Tooele_08Raider - Since the State is so bad, I'm sure you will be moving shortly - good luck.

I like to pay my way. To bad some poor soul is paying my way by taking a chance with very low odds of even breaking even.

lol @Joe mamma - only arrogance assumes that GOD is sending kids off. Its not the case.

The Jews don't.... @Joe mamma - ...recognise Christ as the savior,

The Musilms don't recognise christianity as a true religion,

And the mormons don't recognise each other in Wendover!

if your not making @straightagainst8 - money..........change the laws so you can......smart idea. WHy stop at 18?

Yes, lets make it 10 @Rick D. - Why stop at 18 lets go down to 10. Their is a ton of ten year old children that have good jobs to waste there money on gambling.
If you are old enough to get shot at in wars you should be old enough for anything an adult does. I didn't see the Psychiatrist mention how much damage the wars do to a teenagers mind.

Why stop with 10 @bertie - when I hear there is an eight (8) year old boy in Arizona or New Mexico, I do forget that a District Attorney wants to prosecute as an adult. Granted he killed his father and his fathers friend with some hand gun. I don't have any more details than that, and in no way am I saying that this shooting is right in any way at all, but 8 years old and you want to call him an adult? Sounds to me like this child needs some real help a good disipline/jail/reform school type or some really good mental help, but I don't see how anyone could call an 8 year old an adult.
As for the 18 year old gambling age, well, if you are old enough to get a draft card and get your butt shot at, then why not. Guess this is another sign of the hard times.
I too think Utah goes overboard, they want to tell us all what we can see on TV, do, and where and when, let us live we don't want you to do what you don't want but leave the rest of us alone.

So, are you a Utahn? @Pleasinreason - Who is they? Are you a utahn? If you are then you have just as much freedom to exercise your democratic rights as every other Utahn, right?

I find it very interest that there are so many Utahns who live here, but are somehow able to disconnect themselves from the other Utahns and lable them as "they", or "them", but not "me."

Benjjamin I am @benjjamin - one of those people that all the Mormons have called "A Non Member" all my life, I belive they actually do this out of habit and some looking down their nose too, but for me calling them they or them is just one more way of saying Those People with out using the term Mormon that seems to rile them up so much.
I think most all the other Utahns living here find little peeves with 'them' too, but we don't usually bing it up unless invited to on somthing like this board.
Yours Truly "A Non Member"

Nothing wrong with that.... @Rick D. - When the majority of the state's revenues are generated through gambling, it makes sense to change the laws when tough times arise. I find it amusing that there is such an uproar over this proposal. If the 18 year old adults choose to gamble their hard-earned money, then let them do it. After all, they are adults. Is there really a difference between a 21 year old and an 18 year old mentality? No.
As far as spending the mission savings... it seems to me there is more risk in wasting 2 years of ones life for a false prophecy than blowing a couple hundred bucks on roulette.
Some will argue that the "sin" of gambling should be banned altogether. The same will "invest" thousands in the stock market with the hopes of "winning" big. There is no difference. Just like there is no difference in choosing your spouse, the car you buy, your career, etc. Life in general is one big GAMBLE. Teach the kids how to win at blackjack just like we teach them how to invest in stocks. Some will win some will lose.

!8 year olds... @straightagainst8 - don't know how good they have it these days. Lucky [no swearing please]! Maybe they'll take that luck to the tables in Bendover.

stupid is stupid does

Okay As long as they don't try to marry gays, who cares?

Okay Bikemotor @Bikemotor - for a comment like that I think you should head on out to bendover.

This decision would cause financial ruin to families in Utah and Nevada alike Not a good idea.

easy to judge @Sambecks C. - isnt it sam.....live and let live my man.....raise and teach you and yours not to indulge...until then, keep boycotting those dangerous energy drinks........ps..i still dont understand why ksl thinks it so good to look down their noses other states.....who cares...maybe you should worry about what direction the country is going and not just a single state......

The perhaps, Sam, you could @Sambecks C. - entice Mr. Monson to activate the phone tree system...seemed to work in California...though it failed miserably in Connecticut.

How 'bout we let the good folks who reside in Nevada decide Nevada's laws?

niavity (sp) runs supreme! @Sambecks C. - Dont think for a second that a 18 year old wont find a way to gamble if he wants to. The only difference is that if it were legal, then it could be done in safer places. Casinos have security, are well lit, and no one gets away with the crap that can happen at your run of the mil home game.

I never had a problem in a casino in Wendover when I was 18.

One could point out that investing in the stock market... Is gambling also. Basically when it comes to gambling, if you can't afford to lose it then don't do it.

It's all about self control and people with OCD need not apply.

Well stated, Mr. Jack, and I'd @Billy_Jack - be willing to bet that everything you said is correct.....(if betting were permitted, that is).

I'll raise that bet... @Big Love - wait, I mean I'll double down... NO!... All on black!... Ah forget it.

@Billy_Jack - Driving on these Utah Highways is a gamble!

Everytime Im on I-15 , some LDS soccer mom in her SUV darn near kills me as she speeds by, putting her make up on and talking on her cell phone!

I wasn't aware that 18 year olds were so susceptible to blinking lights. Maybe we shouldn't consider them as adults.

Actually, L C., most 18 @L C. - year olds have a strong abhorrence to blinking lights.

Have you ever seen an 18 yo use their turn signals?




I didn't think so....

@Big Love - I stand corrected.

I'll bet @Big Love - if the blinkers looked like twirling glow sticks at a rave then they'd notice.

This is off topic, but if I were a car designer I would tie the volume of the stereo in with the turn signals. I'd put some sort of sensor that detects when you turn and I would lower the volume by half every time it happens without you signaling. That would get them at least in the habit of doing it some times. You could tie it in with the accelerator somehow too. Before you were able to accelerate after pulling around somone to pass them then you will have to use your blinker for three seconds before any significant power is transfered to the wheels. I'm sure sensors could be installed that would detect that too.

Of course until dealerships stop selling cars without the factory option turn signals (the only logical explanation why so many people don't use them) then it is just a moot point anyway. Nothing can make you signal when your car doesn't have them, right? I think Nissan must save a ton of money by not installing them.

Wait no more, Joe mamma, as the @Joe mamma - engineers at Ford have developed a system that permits a parent to set limits on both the top speed achievable and the maximum volume allowable....all contained within the ignition key.

You, as a parent, could bypass these restrictions, but your teen, for example, would be limited on speed of the car as well as volume of the stereo.

Check it out!

What would Utah think about the Law??? They are probably gonna want a piece of the pie.

@littleloomy - I'm thinking toll road...

Punitive Tax Rates... @littleloomy - ...on all gaming and lotto winnings! There is something for the UEA to bleat off about! "FEED ME $$$!"

If the Feds Insist... ...on the drinking age being 21, then gaming should remain 21 in Nevada and be raised on all Indian Casinos. And frankly it should be federally mandated that age 21 is the minimum age to purchase all tobacco products in any state.

And don't give me any of the crap about how 18 year olds "could" get drafted and placed in harms way in military service. What's next? All brothels and other dens of iniquity and ill-repute become fair game for 18-20 year olds?

@TheLastLaugh - 18 year olds are allowed in brothels and dens of ill-repute(??).

If you allow... @L C. - ...them to gamble, then the precedent is there! That means your 18 year old daughter can move west and make $$$$ for booty calls at the Mustang Ranch, fresh out of high school! I know this is offensive as all get out but it can get that ugly VERY quickly

@TheLastLaugh - That happens already.

Registered Brothel Babes... @L C. - ...or hookers must be at least 21 in Nevada the last I heard.

Bah.. @TheLastLaugh - Seriously, someone with morality that scant couldn't care less about whether or not it is legal. Do you think the hookers in Salt Lake are all 21? I'll go out on State Street tonight and ask one...

The law may say 21, but that won't stop people from breaking it. If hookers know that 18 year old guys will pay for tail because they are gambling and feeling all grown up, then you can bet that age won't matter much. Besides, when was the last time a prostitute was honest about her age anyway?

well... @TheLastLaugh - you last heard wrong. 18 years old is fair game. Same for the adult movie industry.

and.. @TheLastLaugh - Indian casinos are on sovereign land, not all federal laws apply.

Looks like you're too late @TheLastLaugh - According to wikipedia, you CAN visit the legal brothels in Nevada if you're eighteen. Quick, get your picket sign and get out there to protect our 18-20 yo innocents from those evil ladies of ill repute.

gambling and drinking ??? if they lower the gambling age to 18 and you still have to be 21 to drink. allowing an 18 year old into a casino where alcohol is served is still going to be illegal so wont they be cutting their own throats

@4x4's forever - No its not. There plenty of clubs that allow 18 year olds in where alcohol is served. However, those clubs don't exsist in Utah.

L.C. @L C. - i said casinos not clubs
casinos dont make you buy a membership or charge entrance fees

@4x4's forever - My point being, there places that allow 18 year olds around alcohol. they just don't serve it to them.

Most other states.... @4x4's forever - ....dont require memberships for there clubs either. (they dont need clubs,as you can get a real drink in a bar.)

Casinos DO NOT have any laws or rules in reguards to people under 21 being there! (I worked for 1 for 3 years) If you are under 21, you cant stay on the gaming floor, but you can enter any resteraunt, any common area, any arcade.... and even walk across the gaming floor as long as you dont stop. You simply cant gamble. Changing the age to 18 would allow 18 year olds to play, it would simply become harder on the servers to identify and control the distribution of alcohol.

Your information is incorrect.

Many States... @4x4's forever - ...are looking into lowering the drinking age. Wisconsin, Massachusetts etc...

They won't do it though... @TheLastLaugh - There is a lot of medical evidence that suggests that 18 is still too young for the affects of alcohol on the brain. Teenage brains are still developing and unless we want a society of the future even dumber than the one we have now, then we won't encourage any more brain damage than they are already causing. I think 21 is a fine drinking age, but I don't think anything else should be restricted to that. Let them gamble, smoke, hook, or do whatever they want at any age below that. Any kid who would start drinking at 18 is probably already drinking by the age of 15 anyway, so it really probably wouldn't impact much anyway.

brain development @Joe mamma - The brain is not fully developed until a person reaches the age of 23. So the "fine adults" that are getting smashed to celebrate their 21st birthday still haven't fully developed. If that is your arguement for having the leagal drinking age at 21 then we might as well raise it to 23.

Feds wont allow it... @TheLastLaugh - the last few states that used to allow 18 year olds to drink had to change to 21 when the feds threatened to cut funding to this and that.

Trust At 18 the United States trusts your judgement enough to join the military and fight a war. (esentially gambling with your life) But some how we are worried an 18 year old is going to loose all control because he can play $5 a hand at black jack.

OK Mormon Moralistic Creeps Here is another opportunity to NOT mind your own business. Why dont yall just simply BUTT OUT of those things that do not concern you . Oh wait , you guys think EVERYTHING concerns you whether it actually does or not .For a group of people that had ancestors were not left alone to do as they believed you folks sure have a hard time mindin' yer own bidness. Why is that ?

It isn't the mormons... @Ned McHaggis - Who do you think keeps Wendover in business? It is the mormons who fill the buses every weekend. They couldn't give a squirt what the gambling age is. It is just busy bodies in general who would have an issue with this. Maybe the really uptight mormons will take issue, but uptight jews and baptists and catholics are going to get their panties in a twist too, so don't go singling out the mormons just because they are easy targets.

read here @Joe mamma - Nevada Town Booms With Proceeds From Gambling Mormons
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F0CE7DC1130F937A25755C0A965958260


What do Catholics, Jews and Mormons have in common?" he asked his passengers. "Catholics don't recognize birth control, Jews don't recognize Jesus, and Mormons don't recognize each other in Nevada."

sorry couldn't resist it was part of the article and was funny

They are insecure.. @Ned McHaggis - Its all about control, these darn Mormons feel like the world is ganging up on them, therefore, they are running around trying to buy up everything, and make all the rules!

I also believe its a lack of education that causes them to lash out and butt in!

Nothing is going to change... The only thing that will change is the guy who makes fake ID's will be out some cash. Thats it.

Not really, Van, that guy @VAN - will just start seeing a younger clientele.

@VAN - I meant it as a joke. Why so serious? No one has a sense of humor or a sense of sarcasim.

He was trying to be funny @VAN - This stupid place needs a sarcasm font. Nobody seems to get the jokes anymore...

Thank you, Joe @Joe mamma - (no sarcasm intended)

Who cares?? So what if they lower the gambling age in Nevada? Seriously... So What? Personally I would think the waitresses in Nevada would hate the law since they would have to start carding the players at the slots before giving them drinks. I think casinos would look at it as a liability to be potentially serving underage drinkers, but still, so what? That would be a problem they have to deal with. If a bunch of 18 year olds want to head for the border to celebrate graduation at the casino, then let them! They are going to buy their gas in town here before they leave, so that is money being spent. It is also a reason for them to have jobs so they can afford their gambling debt. Some of these kids are better gamblers than adults twice their age with all the online poker they play. I say let them gamble at whatever age they want to. I've never understood the cutoff age for that activity anyway. Other than the serving drinks thing, who freaking cares?? Half the mormons in this state are on the Wendover bus every other weekend anyway, so you can't say that it is a religious thing. It's just another thing for busy bodies to stick their nose in. Let Nevada worry about it and let you start worrying about how much meth your 12 year old is doing and how many boys your 14 year old daughter has slept with. We have bigger problems in this state than worrying about the stupid gambling age.

Well Joe @Joe mamma - The LDS folks CERTAINLY would not want to look at their own problems like teen pregnancy, drug abuse , sexual abuse etc . It is much easier to scapegoat homosexuals , baptize holocaust vicitms and try to tell Nevada how to run Nevada. LDS people sit and wonder why people dont like them . Here is why. YOU MORMONS CANNOT MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS AND CANNOT UNDERSTAND THAT NOT EVERYONE WANTS TO BE LDS!!! It may work well for you and thats fine, but stop being so pushy and others will leave you alone.

Dude, I don't know what the mormons have done to you... @Ned McHaggis - but you have some issues. My advice would be to remember that the actions of a few people don't necessarily reflect the intentions of the whole. I would hate for all of texas to be judged based on my actions, so I would suggest you give "mormons" a break and call out the neighbor who never returned your chain saw or whatever it was that happened that turned you against them. Your rage seems just a little irrational when you post to tell you the truth. I'm aware you didn't ask for the truth, but you are going to get it anyway. Feel free to start foaming at the mouth and demonstrating your irrationality again now.

They have not @Joe mamma - done a thing to me personally . Maybe they just havent gotten around to telling me how to run my life YET but I better be quiet dont want to give them any ideas

yep joe... @Joe mamma - keep those eyes closed... and those rose colored glasses firmly in place.....lol

If we allow people to vote when they are 18, if we allow them to serve in the military and kill bad guys when they are 18,
if we allow them to sign ALL legal contracts when they are 18,
if we treat them in ALL courts as "adults" when they are 18,
WHAT is the problem if we "let" them gamble or drink alochol when they are 18?
Are three years going to make that big a difference?
No.
If a person has no moral compass by the time they are 18, at 21, there is no magic age genie that is going to bestow wisdom and maturity on them at that age.
Perhaps we need to re-adjust the "legal age" back to 21, or make EVERYTHING legal at 18.
It would make more sense in the long run.
When I turned 21, I felt no "urge" to gamble no "urge" to consume alcohol, and I was not on an LDS mission at the time either. Yes, I am LDS, and yes, I've no problem with what Nevada wants to do for Nevada. Why should Utah care? The close "proximity" to demon rum, and other vices? One cannot legislate morality. You either are mature enough or you are an idiot. It really is that simple.

agreed @Otherjonathon L. - I totally agree with everything you put down there. I couldn't have said it better myself. I too, am LDS, and when I turned 21 I was actually excited that I could go to Vegas and throw away some coins in the slots. (I know, oooo, I'm going to hell, oooh, shame on me...) But anyways, if we call 18 year olds ADULTS, and some really do make their own money and spend it how they choose, then by all means let them go to Vegas and throw it away if they so choose.

Think of it like this... @someone u may know? - Each vice is a punishment within itself. If you rent a hooker, you risk getting diseases (and you're out 200 bucks), if you blow meth, you lose teeth, if you gamble, you lose money. We don't need laws to tell us the 18 year old adults are doing wrong

Well said @Otherjonathon L. - Just one more thing, Utah needs a lottery. It would beat going up to Idaho to get my tickets and I'm pretty sure 90% of the people here in Utah that plays the lottery would agree.
Benefits from it.... Quite a few. The money would be spent here, increasing revenue in this state as well as it would help pay for highways and such....
By the way 18 is the age requirement to by a lottery ticket.

The lottery is an excellent idea @gray06 - Other states are seeing great benefits from the lottery. One of which is money for EDUCATION - Something this state could use more of.
And as for the opposition - just because we have a lottery, doesn't mean you have to participate if you don't want to...

@gray06 - Just because other states are looking at lotteries to make up for lost revenue doesn't mean it is a great idea. A lot of people get hooked on gambling like they do drugs. The only reason other states are looking at legalized gambling is because they are desperate for ways to make up for lost revenue in a bad economy. Since some states are considering legalizing gay marriage, is it a good idea for Utah?

@MaryT777 - The only reason the state of Nevada is considering lowering the legal gambling age to 18 is because they are losing money because of the economy and figure 18 year olds would be more willing to gamble. Should they lower the age just because people who are 21 and over are more concerned about the economy and have stopped gambling?

gamble and drink isn't that the way the west was won? It doesn't Matter to me but I bet the pit boss' wont come to your door dressed in a white shirt and black tie asking your 18 year son or daughter to join them to join them.

Mind your own business... Here we go again, meddling into Californias' business which isn't going too well; and now trying to tell Nevada what to do. Time to stop worrying about everyone else and take account of yourself and just "Do the right thing."

casinos they forgot to mention FORT HALL CASINO in pocatello.. about an hour from the border going north. the age there is 18 and the slots are usually looser than the ones in wendover......
for some reason we don't see a high population of 18year olds blowing there money like the article would suggest. heck its only 5 min from downtown. how could this be??

I think this is a GREAT idea! Heck I think that the reservations should be allowed to have casinos here in utah.
Get a utah lottery going!

jnuts @jnuts - I vote for the lottery, but I got to ask you ever been to a reservation casino? Now there are some tight machines. One thing though no DUI worries, all they have is warm soft drinks and cold coffee to offer up.
Went once in Az and put 20 dollars worth of quarters in and never even hit a cherry for a 2 coin pay. Tightest machines I ever saw, and that cold coffee was watered down too.

The headache for the Casinos will be The liquor violations. As long as the drinking age is 21 then its going to be tough for them to have under 21 gamblers not get their hands on booze and not get the casinos busted for underage drinking.

I think that the drinking and gambling decisions should go back to the states and let them decide. If Nevada wants 18 for both, then so be it. The federal government should butt out

It has nothing to do with Utah So But OUT
The State of Nevada can do what ever they won’t to do

The only thing Utahans worry about some 18 year old might take
Their favorite Slot on the weekend

Consider the motives behind the promoters This has nothing to do with treating 18 year olds with greater respect. It is about treating them with greater contempt.

Due to the cash crunch, Nevada's revenue from gambling is way, way down. The casino operators and the State are looking for a new demographic that they can fleece.

The motive for this proposed change is to figure out how they can legally exploit more people.

Reframed, the protagonist argument is "Hey, if 18 year olds are old enough to serve and die for their country, they are old enough to be fleeced by unscrupulous gambling syndicates their political partners too."

Since 15 years olds can be tried and convicted as adults, maybe we should fleece that demographic too.

Gambling is taking what you need and throwing it away for a chance at obtaining what you don't need. Then, many come back and ask for state handouts, at taxpayer expense, because they don't have enough money to cover their needs.

A casino operator plays on "hope". "Yes you can" be a winner, just trust me with your hope and give me power over your resources. Too late, many who so gamble awaken only to find that the promised hope was an empty shill, and that the smiling operator that feigned friendship was little more than a venomous snake.

Utah just don't get it and never will. Revenue.

Maybe they should! Then I wouldnt be subjected to being "id policed" by casino security. I swear every time I go to a casino I get hit up for ID not just once but I'd say at least 5 times in a 1 hour period. The best is when I don't even get ID'd at the bar yet I walk around with the drink in my hand sit down at a slot and bam 2 mins later I have "red coats" swarming me as if they are gonna detain an underaged gambler........

Maybe they should do what concerts do with stamping your hand, giving you a wrist band but honestly getting harrassed to show ID to 5 different people in the same establishment is a joke!