Corrections Officer Shot and Killed, Suspect Arrested
A Utah prison inmate is back in jail after he allegedly shot and killed a corrections officer while at the University of Utah for a medical exam. June 25th, 2007 @ 6:00pm
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It Sounds tragic for at least one public servant and their family. Possibly other victim. Prayers go out to all. At least it sounds like they have the suspect in custody.
Not from a guy sitting at work on his computer listening to the story on KSL.
That's the difference.
If God didn't intend for us to eat animals, why did he make them out of meat?
Filthy inmates receive better medical care than many more deserving people in this country. Maybe after we take care of law-abiding citizens we can look after the filth.
If this was an injured horse, we would likely put it down. I can tell you this: a horse is more valuable than criminals. Maybe after we take care of all the horses, dogs, pigs, cats and other animals, we can take care of dirtbag, loser, filthy, feral criminals.
If this dirtbag can pay for medical care and can find someone dumb enough to treat him, then I say he can have medical care. This makes me sick.
He looks like a walking billboard, so why were they wasting medical care on an individual that obviously doesn't take care of his body when he wasn't in jail.
Why can't they offer medical attention in prison, and if special care is needed, wait until they have served their time. Keep him in his cage!
Why waste medical technology OR money on this guy, or any other convicted criminal!!?? If they get really sick and have to suffer for a while is that a bad thing!???
A lot of "Why's" but this should not happen.
Condolences to the family of this officer.
the reason this can't be done at the prison is that each of these machines cost a Minimum of $500K. I for one am not willing to supply every prison with this kind of equipment. I wish we could have a special place for these people to go but we simply can't afford it.
It is too bad he had to take an innocent man from this world only to be caught 10 minutes later. My condolences as well.
Taxpayers, alert your legislators that you do not want to pay for criminal MRIs. Criminals should pay for their own health care. Also, it should be illegal for felons to be treated in a facility where there are law abiding citizens. Prison clinics will have to do for prisoners. If you don't want to go to a prison clinic, keep your [removed][removed] out of jail you filthy [removed][removed].
Spay and neuter your pets!
My father and brother are corrections officers. My heart goes out the the family of the fallen officer.
Travis Laursen
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My guess - neither of you knew about it until it was long after.
Plus, it helps if the joke was actually funny.
In previous encounters humor helped us maintain our sanity and I think it is entirely appropriate on an otherwise serious forum.
I'm getting tired of hearing you spout off your lame insights and excuse the inappropriate nature of your comments by claiming you've "experienced" something similar.
If God didn't intend for us to eat animals, why did he make them out of meat?
(you forgot your question mark)
If God didn't intend for us to eat animals, why did he make them out of meat?
It wasn't a question.
If God didn't intend for us to eat animals, why did he make them out of meat?
If God didn't intend for us to eat animals, why did he make them out of meat?
Sometimes those kinds of comments can provide additional insight into a situation.
I can't believe this person recieved numerous troll ratings for merely stating their own similar encounters.
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Usually those the brag the most about their accomplishments, especially in ways that can't be proven, are the least accomplished.
If you really were so accomplished, people would already know, you wouldn't have to tell them.
Do you think John Stockton works into every conversation, even online ones with strangers, that he used to be an awesome point guard? Nope, people already know it. He doesn't have to tell them.
You on the other hand come here and brag about yourself constantly. It was kinda funny, in a pitying sort of way, at first. But give us a break. It has become kind of like watching the video of Anna Nicole Smith in the crazy makeup acting so bizarre.
I have flown thousands of sorties and I have seen people die, but I have never seen humor in any death, for any reason!
I've read many times where he tries to insult people by making a jab at them supposedly not having a house, then on this post he admits that he lives in student housing. Pretty lame for a guy in student housing to be making jabs about peoples houses.
His previous post further up said, "For me it was a reminder I was not in the middle of this" speaking about someone Else's humor post. Yikes Dc, you have to come here and read peoples posts to stay in reality and not start thinking that this story had you involved in it?
All narcissists are overcompensating for a perceived lack of strength in other areas, but I would have never guessed that yours was a bluff for a little man so unsure of his place in the world that he comes here to read and make sure the biggest story of the day didn't include him!
If God didn't intend for us to eat animals, why did he make them out of meat?
You regularly do this?
And now you are suggesting that other strangers call this man's family.
You are truly a nightmare. I thought you just trolled around the net bugging people, but you interject yourself into news stories and start making phone calls to those in the news?
You sir, need a lot of help. You are dangerous.
But now you're saying that you didn't suggest calling anyone. Oh well, all least you are smart enough to backtrack on that one.
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TRY AGAIN!!!!!!
It is because it isnt the weapon that kills! It is the Coward holding the "NRA/Gun" that aint man enough to face anyone hand to hand! It is the week minded clown behind the wheel with a blood alchohol level 4 times the leagal limit! And it is fools like you that think the problem lies with the weapon! If that were true Automobiles/UAW, Alcohol, and Box Cutters would already be outlawed! The problem lies with you fools on the left! Violent criminals have more rights than anyone else, especialy the dead people. That is the problem and it was created by people like you, to stupid to see the real problem!
Grow a brain!Not Weed!
Now my tax dollars are going to be spent on this LOOSER to get 3 squares, a comfy bed, cable tv and regular sex.
I DON'T EVEN GET ALL THAT!!!
My condolences to the family of the officer.
Nice tats you freakin waste of a human being...
Wear your seat belts and helmets, people! Get your CFP!
Your comment was classless and unnecessary! Get a life!
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The minute I got to work at the University, there was a "code yellow" and our front door has been locked since.
(Sorry, but that was twice on one webpage. But I think you were oblivious of that fact.)
YOU'RE OUTTA HERE!!
Hear me now and believe me later
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So technically off-campus in Research Park and far from 9th West...
HTH
However, considering this terrible thing happened in a University operated facility, yes it is campus.
So I said "technically off campus" because it was not on main campus but still in a university operate facility.
But that is all besides the point. It is a terrible thing that occurred this morning and I am saddened by the event. My heart goes out to the family of the officer.
Did you mean "obvious" or "oblivious" in your comment?
I, for one, do not "fear" this situation. You might; I don't.
I do feel very badly for the Officer's family.
I am an American Original and yes, I spoke for myself! (no others need apply)
But I suppose that when Elizabeth Smart was kidnapped you were in fear of kidnappers, but I suppose that fear has abated now.
I don't all of a sudden take on new fears just because one hits the news.
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If God didn't intend for us to eat animals, why did he make them out of meat?
It has been said many, many times before, but I will say it again. If you do not like how KSL reports a story, go somewhere else for your news.
On a side note, my condolences go out to the family of the officer shot, he is a hero for being willing to put his life on the line to protect others.
I would not be one of those people to comment that the news is slow. Difference of opinion.
I feel like if I don't like something I have the right to try to change the thing I don't like to make things better. I guess if you have anything you don't like you just walk away and don't try to improve the situation.
I also feel very sorry for the family of the officer and all involved.
I would rather have some preliminary details about where something is happening so I can avoid that area than to stumble into a situation that could put my life in danger.
Another thing to keep in mind is that often times police will not comment on ongoing investigations, or if they do they give minimal details. They were probably more concerned with making sure this idiot was in custody than they were commenting on the case.
Just as you have a right to try to change things, KSL has a right to post the stories as they see fit and report them in a timeframe they deem appropriate. You also have a right to choose another news venue if the reporting of KSL does not suit your needs. You are probably not going to find any news station in the country that will wait to report high impact stories like this until they have all of the details.
Police don't comment because the public doesn't need to know. If there is a situation where telling the public will help protect people or catch criminals then they will report it. The media listens in and tries to infer what is going on and they may get it wrong or give out information that actually hurts the investigation.
I like KSL for the most part I can have an opinion. I can still read KSL if I don't agree with everything. If you don't like my comment why don't you go to another post that suits you better.
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breaking news reports do not have all the "ingredients" to make a full report.
I wouldn't want ice cream with only half the ingredients.
It doesn't help to have boohooers who want all the details all the time complaining when they aren't spoonfed exactly what they want when they want it. As soon as something happens that could have been prevented by getting the word out, many of those same boohooers will also be the first to jump all over the media for not releasing details soon enough. There's no winning with people like that.
I still think they should follow the example of the Humane Society. There would no jail overcrowding and losers like this one would not be out taking the life of hard-working, innocent people.
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Purple Monkey Dishwasher
It's an unfortunate situation any way you look at it.
Purple Monkey Dishwasher
That being said your perception of their life in prison is incorrect. Some prisoners live better in prison than they did out of prison. If your perceptions of prison were correct perhaps it would not be so bad to have them go to prison.
Also death would be a form of punishment.
But thats not all. For a guy like this, prison is a status symbol! For most of his life he has told his friends and convinced himself that going to prison is what he wants do with his life.
He gets his meals brought to his cell, clothing 3 times a week, television, telephones, candy, electronics, reading material, college edu, all at the taxpayers "roomservice" expense. His only obligation is that he not die.
I went on a cruise to Mexico once and was not treated that well.
I ask you, Punishment?
Semper Fi
Usually when there's an Officer Involved Shooting, Cpsmurf and Dcnielsen jump on KSL and start wondering aloud what the officers did wrong to warrant a shooting. Sometimes they even go so far as to defend the criminal.
I wish the best for the officers family.
If God didn't intend for us to eat animals, why did he make them out of meat?
I don't think we should base law enforcement policies on what we see in the movies... but that's just me.
If God didn't intend for us to eat animals, why did he make them out of meat?
I am so sorry for the officer and his family.
Real life heroes are WAY more important than a stupid TV show.
I don’t think it is appropriate to “trash talk” officers when one of them just lost their life trying to serve our community. But, since you bring it up, it is obvious that they did do something wrong. Had they not done anything wrong this whole mess would not have happened.
Have a little respect and quit looking for a fight at an inappropriate time.
I really really hope you weren't saying the OFFICERS did something wrong to cause this tragedy.
If God didn't intend for us to eat animals, why did he make them out of meat?
If God didn't intend for us to eat animals, why did he make them out of meat?
You original post called out Cpsmurf and Dcnielsen for wondering “what the officers did wrong to warrant a shooting.” I was just trying to point out the fact that something did indeed go wrong. The criminal got the officers gun. That is wrong no matter how you look at it. I am not trying to say that officers are bad and criminals are good, but you were wrong.
It is quite possible that the officer made a mistake in handling the inmate. (NOTE TO HOBBES: This is not to imply that I am siding "with" the inmate and "against" the officer, am simply keeping an open mind concerning the comments made by others.)
I'm not a troll, I'm just voted that way...
Don't tell me you respect what officers do for the community when you are questioning the actions of one who was killed in the line of duty. You would probably also be against this officer if he was able to use deadly force in the situation and killed the suspect. Anytime an officer is being disarmed it is a deadly force situation for now blatantly obvious reasons.
I will tell you again. I have the utmost respect for law enforcement officers.
I would in no way have been against an officer using deadly force in this situation. I wish the officer would have shot the inmate. I wish the officers would have shot him at Arby’s. I agree with you, when an officer is being disarmed it is definitely a deadly force situation, I hope you never had any question about that before now.
I don't know why he was there. I am just guessing based on experiance from going there it is not a place that emergencys are taken care of so why was he there.
I've kindly asked KSL to ban you from the comment boards.
I'll look for you in the future under a different screen name.
If God didn't intend for us to eat animals, why did he make them out of meat?
Thanks, Itsa.
Don't forget that you're subject to a search when you visit him at the prison.
If God didn't intend for us to eat animals, why did he make them out of meat?
Police officers deserve the greatest of respect, but they are not super human, and they are not infallible.
I'm only grouchy and moody on days that end with Y.
It is still the criminals fault. The "bad guy" took the gun and shot the officer. The BAD GUY. That is the bottom line.
You're right, though. Police officers are not infallible, so why do so many people expect them to be and blame them when a BAD GUY does something BAD?
If God didn't intend for us to eat animals, why did he make them out of meat?
It is definitely the bad guys fault, but that does not mean that officers never commit errors. I hope it didn’t seem like I was trying to blame the officer for the criminals actions.
When the smoke has cleared and the investigation into what went wrong has been conducted and concluded, I hope that something of intrinsic value can be wrought of it, that another public servant's life might be saved by learning from the mistakes of others who've served before him, if in fact, it is the case that an error on the part of this officer was made.
It only takes the smallest degree of error to result in the worst of tragedies. How terrible for this officer's family that they must suffer because of a selfish, living-la-vida loco skinhead.
God gave us our memories so that we might have roses in December. - J. M. Barrie
A gun is much different than a stapler for obvious reasons. And when you carry a gun, for work or other reasons, it is your responsibility to take care of it.
I am confused now. So we agree? It was the officer’s responsibility to secure his weapon, and it is mine to secure my stapler. It does not, however, mean that it was the Officers fault he was murdered, that was still the criminal’s action, and his fault. I never tried to say that this was the officer’s fault, it is very obviously the criminals fault. I was just trying to point out that something did go wrong.
Just out of curiosity, what makes you think I would cower before you in an alley?
If at first you don't succeed, then skydiving definitely isn't for you.
I do, however, have a problem with individuals who tend to ignore the U.S. Constitution and brush it aside. I also have a problem with people who believe that everyone below them on the moral ladder is a "dirtbag". I have a problem with people drawing conclusions before the facts are known.
You're a bit confused on my position, Hobbes.
I'm not a troll, I'm just voted that way...
P.S. A swift death to the dirtbag who shot you.
Hospitallady
Please do not refer to them as guards.. That is very disrespectful. I am surprised and glad that KSL actually referred to this officer as a correctional officer instead of "guard" like they frequently do.
Robert is saying that the Transportation Officers are certified at the same standards and with the same training as Peace (Police) Officers.
They have the same training. The only difference is that Transportation Officers are sponsored by the State of Utah instead of an individual city.
It should be noted, however, that CO's have Special Functions training (Category 1) and Peace Officers, Transportation Officers, and Probation/Parole Officers are required to complete the Law Enforcement block of training (Category 2).
If God didn't intend for us to eat animals, why did he make them out of meat?
It is so lame to use outdated non-pc words.
Just out of curiosity, how do you know all of this?
Cat 2 training deals more with traffic stops, how to estimate speeds of travel based on skid marks (on the road... not in underwear), and firearms training. This type of training would do little good for Special Functions officers who don't carry firearms, don't initiate traffic stops, and don't respond to traffic accidents (usually).
These are just a few examples of the differences and is not meant to be all inclusive in the distinctions of Cat 1 and Cat 2.
If God didn't intend for us to eat animals, why did he make them out of meat?
If God didn't intend for us to eat animals, why did he make them out of meat?
If God didn't intend for us to eat animals, why did he make them out of meat?
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Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism.
George Washington
Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism.
George Washington
I'd think the family of this killed officer should get some serious explaining on why the prison system thought it was a good idea to only send one officer to do a job that probably should have taken no less than at least 5 officers. It's really sad this officer was killed. It probably did not need to happen if more percautions were taken. And I don't think any reasonable person would think that is a hindsight observation. CLEARLY the prisoner was known to be very violent already... even the public knew that already.
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Please give me understanding with both the young and old. Let me listen with attention until their story's told. Let me never make a judgment in a rash or callous way, but let me hold my patience let each man have his say.
Lord if some dark and dreary night, I must give my life, Lord, with your everlasting love protect my children and my wife.
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May God protect this man's family.
Nine firefighters died last week and one the corrections officer today. Please don't forget who the real HEROS are!
Who was the officer, does anyone know?
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Has the Aryan Brotherhood or similiar group infilrated the prison?
They need to be segregated and put in maximum security away from the general. They are reputed very dangerous no matter what.
But maybe this explains the moron that nearly caused a bunch of accidents on I-215 this morning. An unmarked car (grey Pontiac) with only hazard lights and a siren blazing down the left-hand pulloff 'lane' at well over 100 mph kicking up dust, dirt, rocks and other road debris and nearly slamming into the cement wall then veering into the three cars to his right. The dust and debris was so bad I had to brake heavy and avoid hitting the objects being thrown into the middle of the freeway. He didn't allow anyone the chance to move over. However that was at 8:15, after this had all transpired. Maybe he wanted to get on tv or something? There wasn't much traffic ahead of him, would have cost him maybe 5-10 seconds to wait for those ahead to move over. He's lucky he didn't make news of his own.
PERHAPS IT IS ONLY YOUR COMMENTS, THAT ARE NOT EVEN CLOSE TO THE PURSUIT!!!!!
If you really think a police officer is a moron for responding to an emergency, I hope you never have the need for one to help you out.
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- H.D. Thoreau
This puke needs to be put down quick.
Unfortunately the low life that committed the murder will get to continue his lfe for many years.
Cam
I see possibly in the future, two officers being assigned for such an event and the cuffs remaining on during exams unless they have to be removed under strict supervision and other means of restraint being utilized during such events.
Man, this freak was covered in face tattoos, what a weird looking man, a waste if you ask me. Anyone that does that to themselves has no self respect.
I am glad very few were hurt, this person should have been shot on site and saved the Utah tax payers allot of time and money wasted listening to the up-coming new trial, maybe one day in the future, the officers will be allowed to shoot on the spot knowing he was or has killed so just end the problem now (I know that idea is not popular but that is how I feel about it).
Terrible day for all involved...
point 1: when you killed or violate the right of someone yours should be over
point 2: garbage is to be desposed
point 3: how protects you? a police officer or a murder?
point 4: yes, he is human and he should have a fair trial.
The kicker :loves Adolf should be trial by Jewish people or blacks so is fair too
point 5: like his pictures he know where he is gonna go hell!, just lets making the favor.
This was only possible because we want to cater to those who are not fit for our society! Put them in a corner and forget them, forget them we should when they are 6 feet under. Every one has choices; it is how we make them that we should be accountable for!
The old West had it's moments (good and bad) but maybe a few good points along that line too...swift justice, on the spot carrying out of sentence.
BUT lets not forget this is America and we don't execute people on the spot, or at least we try not to. We live by the rule of LAW, not by mob justice. People that cry for the blood of others every time some crime is headline news scare me as much as the criminals.
Does anyone know why we do this?
Like it or not, that is how I feel about this person or anyone that behaves like him and takes a life like he did.
There is no doubt this guy killed a cop. Try the scum in a day - set a date (hopefully 3 months away) deny all appeals - and inject this sucker with that heart stopping, burning, unethical - death juice. I'd love to push in the needle.
My prayers are with the officers family, may he rest in peace.
Never look back, you have much to look forward too
Does anyone know why we do this?
If God didn't intend for us to eat animals, why did he make them out of meat?
I learned that Arbys is open for breakfast!
A fine citizen just working hard taken out by a monster who has a heart full of hatred and no respect for anyone or anything.
The only good thing I can see is that maybe this waste of skin will be locked down NEVER to EVER be let out again.
A fast execution would be even better but unfortunately that would take so long ....so much money. I agree with the above there are times when you as a person forfeit your rights. I say people on death row for murder get one appeal and that is all.
You lose the appeal and the sentence is carried out post haste.
So sorry to this man's family.
A subtle thought that is in error may yet give rise to fruitful inquiry that can establish truths of great value.
SCRUZ is Correct. You may not like it but if my family member had been shot because a state employee brought in a person who was known to be very violent into an environment which was not secure, and they then gained access to a weapon which they would not have had were it not for the employee. I'd be beyond mad.
Point 2: You state that if a family member is shot because someone gains access to a weapon that they shouldn't have and wouldn't have if it were properly secured, you'd be "beyond mad." I'm assuming you'd be mad at the person who failed to secure the weapon, right? Okay, let's apply that to today's situation: Officer has weapon, inmate gets weapon, inmate kills officer. So who are you mad at? The person who failed to secure the weapon, right? Do you realize that you've just created a scenario in which the officer's family is now supposed to be "beyond mad" at him for failing to secure his own weapon?
Yeah, that's pretty slick logic there and I'm sure it will go a long way toward helping everyone involved in today's events deal with what has happened.
PS. Nice tats loser.
Ribbit!
My CCW instructor says he has taught many many doctors and nurses and custodians at the University Medical Center.
If I had seen this freak at the Hospital running around I'd have probably shot him, then I would have found out he was a criminal with a gun who had just shot someone.
THE UNIVERSITY AND THE HOSPITAL CAN'T DO A THING ABOUT CCW HOLDERS BRINGING GUNS INSIDE.
And, in the words of Martha Stewart, "That's a Good Thing"
Ribbit!
“Sugar and cheese are the fundamentals of life.“
How fortunate that no other innocent people were harmed.....
How sad that the police were not able to "eliminate"
this????
How sad/infuriating that this ???? was ever allowed to be in a position where he could perpetrate such an offense.
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Ribbit!
I am surprised he didn't kill himself after this rampage. Too bad he didn't becasue it would of saved alot of $ and BS dealing with this freak!
BTW, the victim at the Arby's is an illegal alien (one cop told the other on the radio to reassure the victim that his citizenship status isn't a question). It's possible that his race was part of the reason that he was wounded.
So I'll go ahead and sum up this post with a flurry of anti-blue people slurs.
"I hate those blue people, yup I sure do"
"Blue people are so evil and stupid"
Makes me feel like shooting someone... with gumdrops.
White Brothers,
This unfortunatley is good for him in his society
there are alot of racial comments on this board at times, and this should be no different
I see plenty of comments where he should be hung or shot, and I agree with that and it is not about the money to me, he is an extremely dangerous person and he was incarcerated, and he still commited a first degree felony he is still alive and he is still dangerous and still a threat to society when I look at the pictures he has no soul he has no remorse, there is nothing except hate in him
and he should have been exterminated this morning
unfortunatley, he was not
I don't necessarily agree that officer did anything wrong, this piece of crap, had already planned it out
and that officer was a victim of circumstance
he planned on killing him. the guy never had a chance
stupid, had been sitting spending his time plotting his getaway for months, and it was never an option to let the officer live I guarantee that, My heart goes out to the Family,
How awful, for them May god bless them
and carry them throught this time of grief
MAY GOD BE WITH YOU
I'm not one to gossip so you did'nt hear it from me
Regardless of race, this guy is a waste of flesh and should be put down.
My condolences to the officers family.
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If you don’t like it, why don’t you go back to Mexico?
Instead, we will spend a million dollars going through a trial - where defense attorney will blame his actions on drugs or twinkies and he will likely sit on death row for the remainder of his life.
What a waste of human flesh. He probably has hepatitis from all the tatoos. If somehow he is free of disease, there should be a way to harvest his organs to save a life or two. We could learn a lesson from the Chinese here...
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Amazing to be throlled by a throll, when you know no honest woman would have anything to do with a scumbag like this
I'm grateful to him that, in some way, he may have prevented other lives from being lost, as well as for the service he rendered to help keep our community safe.
Thank you for his sacrifice, and I'm truely saddened that another good man has been lost.
What is our world coming to?
Time out, stop the world, I want to get off.
My heart and prayers go out to the Family who this dirtbag has now impacted.
Should be in solitary confinement for good.
TeleSkiing
May all officers out there keep this man in their hearts, and stay safe.
They need to increase pay rates in order to retain officers, and reduce officer turnover. Also more funding to hire more officers, and more continuous training. It is a lot to ask, but what price should we put on our safety, and the safety of our officers.
God bless all officers and their families, and especially the Andersons.
I give kudos to the officers that apprehended him. They are far bigger men than I. I undoubtedly would have shot this man dead. It is my oppinion that this individual (scum bag) be put to death. I like the aforemention "fertilizer for sod" idea.
My condolences to the officers family, friends, and co-workers.
How on Earth could anyone have possibly thought it was a good idea to have this serious criminal escorted by so small a number of police/correctional officers? Shouldn't somebody in authority have recognized all of the points you made regarding this transfer of prisoner? I mean, come on! If you know it, why didn't they? Or did they but they didn't take preventative measures? Baffles the mind.
God gave us our memories so that we might have roses in December. - J. M. Barrie
Any reports as to why he went to the Arby's? Did he demand money, a roast beef?
Who mentioned that the U wasn't taking things seriously? He's been caught! Why be in lock-down? Give me a break!
What a tregedy that an officer lost his life! This man needs his life to end. Why spend money of keeping his sorry self alive in the prison system?
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Ribbit!
We are all in the gutter, some of us are looking at the stars.
-Oscar Wilde
Too bad we can't just quietly put this guy down like a rabid dog. No fanfare, no hype...just a single bullet to the back of the neck out behind the barn.
I'm speculating and have no specific knowledge about this case, but if the criminal had complaints about an arm or shoulder orthopedic problem, it may be necessary to release him from handcuffs to perform an adequate examination.
This system is in place due numerous lawsuits brought over the years by prisoners who believed they were not getting adequate care for problems that developed during their incarceration.
I am deeply saddened by Mr. Anderson's death. I knew him personally. I would like to see his ruthless murderer sit on death row, be executed, and then burn in hell.
[Please don't shout with ALL CAPS.]
Second you are degrading everyone for making comments on this page, but you are doing it yourself????? Were not idiots, this is a good way of getting informed about what is going on in our community that you seem to still be so interested in!!!!!!!!
"So lets just say".......
Thank god for Texas for moving your [no swearing please] out of Utah!
do this on your own time. for every second you are playing..that is what it is is PLAYING. it costs your boss money. This is why I left Utah..1. Way too much playing on the job. 2. Lack of skilled people.
Like I said, Texas has 1000 union turned employees for every 1 in utah. break down it means that things manufactured in UTAH are crap..I seem to recall the space shuttle that blew up. The "O" rings were manufactured in Utah, by unskilled non union labor. I rest my case.
BTW this kid could quote scriptures better than a general athority. He was a great scriptorian, and a real faithful kid..I also went to Camp Steiner with him when we were in the scouts. HE IS A GREAT KID. I have asked to be on his visitation list. See a good person is one who can forgive. This is also something the Mormon community does far too little of. Living 60 years in Utah I only saw it twice. Here just over a year I have already seen it twice..funny hu? Also Here I have started attending church again. See I have found L.D.S. People again. The way they used to be when I was baptised, NOT LIKE THE ONES I LEFT..HECK I LIVED 33 YEARS IN SANDY AND KNEW ONLY ONE NEIGHBOR, BECAUSE JACK MORMONS WERE AND ARE TREated like scum..i'm not scum. i am a person who is capable of feeling love, and since moving here to texas, can be loved as well. my only regret is staying so long in utah. this place is HUGE WITH LOVE AND FORGIVENESS, AND REAL MORMONS..I LOVE IT.
If things in Texas are so [no swearing please]good, why are you constantly posting comments on a news site for Utah? Do us all a favor, stop posting your idiotic, hateful, derogatory posts, go back to doing whatever it is you do there in Texas, and leave us alone!
and putting them on the fast rack to RIDE THE LIGHTNING
yes, I love texas as well
I am not LDS, but that doesn't matter I know alot of good hard working LDS people who I suspect are angels among us.
they are Patient, caring people and I still see alot of them in UTah
But you are in astate of Southern hospitatlity and that definitly rubs off on you
So maybe it is not that the Mormons there are better than the mormons in utah
maybe they have just become a product of their enviroment
IN A GOOD WAY
I'm not one to gossip so you did'nt hear it from me
1. You live in Texas but still find time to check in on Utah happenings, then take the time to make un-educated, miss-informed statements on what happens here.
2. You may not be aware that maybe people work different shifts throughout the day where they have the time in the morning to read the news.
3. Your comment about Texas union scale vs Utah is confusing. Are you saying you have rather pay 27.00/hr than 8.10? Do they work for twice as long in Texas than Utah or are you trying to say they are more productive.
4. Making a claim to fame with this murderer and makeing the comment about being a deacon with him is just a subtle jab at the church.
5. Allgier is 28 years old there is no way you are would be near the same age as he is. Besides the media tends to mention if he is a member of the church if he was one.
Let's stay on focus, a REAL officer lost their life because of some deranged lunatic, who was probably faking an injury. My heart and prayers go out to the family and friends of that officer.
So are you not working too? By posting your comment you just became one of us. And who really cares about Texas Unions anyway? We're talking about the psycho who shot someone and tried to get away.....not you!
With all of SLC PD and Sheriffs that hade already
Arrested the suspect in the fatal shooting of a corrections officer.
Why did half of West Valley Police force go to help?
It was just one man?
By the time WVC PD got there they had
Suspect arrested.
To me the last thing SLC PD and the sheriffs
Needed was WVC PD trying to help?
If WVC PD put that kind of effort in stopping
The gangs, drive Bys, and getting shot on the free way
We might have a safe place to live
75th Ranger Regiment U.S Army.( Got Freedom Thank A Veteran )
So what if a reader spends a moment or two responding to this terrible event, as long as they dont spend too much time, so what - get a life will ya!
Murderurs and child molesters should not be allowed to be realesed or parolled for any raeson. Deathrow should be a short stay not a life sentence. if we could only take the religious fanatics out of the equasion who feel that these people are "god's children." I am an Athiest and shurly hope that someday people will come to there senses, pull their heads out of their Bibles and BOMs and see the world as it realy is and think standing up, not on their knees with their heads down.
No family should go through what the andersons are right now. Unfortunatly others eventually will because as a society we are to afraid to do what is necessary.
The prison medical team should hang their collective heads in shame!
Out here in the real world, it takes an act of Deity to get your insurance company to approve an MRI exam, and once it is approved it can take weeks to actually get the appointment!! Maybe insurance companies should pattern their business practices after the department of corrections. It seems much more efficient.
That being said, My heart goes out to the family of the slain officer. He didn't deserve this any more than prisoners deserve superior health care coverage!
I never thought about it like that
but you are right
maybe there investigators out there should investigate the medical staff, maybe one of them are corrupt
honestly why would you send them to the U OF U when he already has a history of making false claims of illness and then all of a sudden it is so serious he has to be removed to U of U for an MRI
it could be just my conspiracy theory mind taking over but that is an excellent point you bring
mmh something to think about anyway,
I'm not one to gossip so you did'nt hear it from me
This guy's court hearing should be short...and held in Texas.
My condolences to the officer and his family.
My condolences to the family of the police officer killed. Our prayers are with you.
I am saddened by this tragedy and my heart goes out to this Officers family. They are in our prayers and being a part of the Corrections Department. My husband may or may not have known this Officer, however this is tearing him apart.
I am glad that there was a hero in this situation, the man who tackled the inmate and wrestled the gun away before he was able to kill again.
Amy - email please
Anyway...
It's sad anyone got killed and that anyone would kill another human being.
I hope this is never repeated and that we can at least learn from this.
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Don't give in to him and post his picture and make his feel like he got his way. That is exactly what this creep and his white supremacist sickos want.
Stop having your goal for news be all about shock value.
You are giving this creep more press than the poor man who lost his life.
I am sure the family of this poor man is sickened when all they see is the face of his killer, and not the face of a hero.
I send my prayers to the officer's family, and to the rest of the police agencies out there. This loss does hit close to home since my husband is soon to be a police officer. Let's show some respect to them, and honor the everyday heros that put their lives on the line for us.
Opinionated and don't care
I feel so sad for the families involved in this morning's events. Know that thoughts and prayers are with you.
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Bob I like You, but there is one problem with that
He will give the ants hart burn!
And this one is fore KSL’s READ IT IN SPANISH
Don’t get your hops up Immigration reform will not
Happen
So KSL READ IT IN English
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I'm thinkin'Arby's ... I mean death penalty.
Can you please edit the comments from idiots so thst those of us with intelligent comments don't have to read these morons.
(Sorry, Klyph.)
I feel sorry for the corrections officers family my thoughts and prayers are with you.
I'm not trolling, this is how I feel
Another thought - how are they going to explain to the Corretional Officer's wife WHY they're putting this guy back in the fish bowl?? Was the the Officer not worth the 25 cents it'd cost to take out this individual? He was an OBVIOUS threat to not only the Officer but the rest of the general public - by keeping him alive, it just gives him the chance to kill again.
Personally - I think a life is worth more than a lousy quarter.
Take Todd's advice!
Another thought - how are they going to explain to the Corretional Officer's wife WHY they're putting this guy back in the fish bowl?? Was the the Officer not worth the 25 cents it'd cost to take out this individual? He was an OBVIOUS threat to not only the Officer but the rest of the general public - by keeping him alive, it just gives him the chance to kill again.
Personally - I think a life is worth more than a lousy quarter.
Another thought - how are they going to explain to the Corretional Officer's wife WHY they're putting this guy back in the fish bowl?? Was the the Officer not worth the 25 cents it'd cost to take out this individual? He was an OBVIOUS threat to not only the Officer but the rest of the general public - by keeping him alive, it just gives him the chance to kill again.
Personally - I think a life is worth more than a lousy quarter.
The one common denominator I see in all said is all of us need to realize we can make a difference in this world of ours. There are many more "cop killers"/haters out there who are the enemy of good, yes it's true! Our system allows too much for the criminal as you've been shown today and we could all get involved and make crime a tougher penalty. If you want to get more angry keep up with what happens to this "suspect" as he is being called. It will cost tax payers about $80K per year just to house him and if he gets the death penalty, he can appeal and this process goes on up to 3 times and costs us a lot of $$$. Let's be more vigilant in our walks of life and not allow crime. Get involved, learn how to protect yourself, talk to your govt. officials and let's win the war of good vs evil. I'm not suggesting this will be easy. Be vigilant!
cheers!
No question about it: this is one damaged human being. He should never again be allowed on the streets. He owes a debt he can never pay, and in his current frame of mind he obviously doesn't give a rat's south end.
Yet there, but for the grace of God, goes one of my own. My own son was raised in a Christian home, yet with a lot of respect for his agency and a lot of latitude. He was never abused. He had all the advantages. He was a kind, obedient boy who showed immense promise. Until he hit about 14. Then everything seemed to [removed] in a handbasket. And we have no idea why. Thus far he's probably doing nothing worse than living a secular humanist lifestyle with all the self-destructive worldly habits that that entails, but there's nothing to say he couldn't have gone down the same path that this individual did.
The point is, it's easy to say that this "P.O.S." needs to be blown away, and part of me feels the same sort of outrage and craving for justice. Another part of me says that somewhere there's probably a family that has been grieving for the loss of this human for a long time. Part of that family may even bear a share of the burden for the damage that was done to this individual. But I know how I would feel if that were my son who were sitting in that police car with his face looking like that.
I'm not saying he doesn't deserve the ultimate punishment - I'm not stepping into that debate. Our system of justice will decide his fate, and we'll have to live with whatever comes out. But I'm grateful that we live in a country whose system accords even the most aberrant of its citizens the right of a trial with human dignity rather than the vigilanteism that is so easy to find in other parts of the world.
I'm not a bleeding heart - the rights of victims, in my eyes, should always come before the rights of perpetrators. This man may well die for his crimes. But the feral tone of many of the comments on the board frightens me, because the line between the criminal and those who would mete out justice upon him seems to blur.
Badger badger badger mushroom...
Also, there is absolutely nothing "inherently self-destructive" about a "secular humanist lifestyle." Non-theists have the lowest incarceration rates when compared with religionist, and non-theists are among the most healthy groups in almost all measures. Their divorce rates and suicide rates are very low.
This awful human being is a member of the Aryan Nations. It is a stupid, evil Christian religious group. Google "Church of Jesus Christ" and the "Christian Idenity Movement." Being raised in a "Christian home" doesn't mean squat. It is as likely to cause a person to be filled with hate and fear as it is to fill them with love and charity.
I doubt your son is actually a secular humanist, but if he is, you should be grateful.
BTW, there is no blurring of the lines between this criminal and those on this forum who are seeking justice. If you can't see the clear difference, it is no wonder your son is confused.
Badger badger badger mushroom...
Officer Anderson's family might see it so please have a heart and remove that picture!
I am so sorry for your horrible loss. You are in our prayers. May you think of all the wonderful memories you had with him...hold them close in this time of pain and sorrow.
One of the pic. showes this[no swearing please]being taken out of the building with a short, fat, white guy holding him, with a big, black, buff, man in the back ground. At first site I thought that they where just wating for him to run again but then NO, Wait, SLC police have a no chase policy. o well
REMOVE IT!!!!!
My thoughts go out to the officer's family.
Anderson family- Best wishes
izzy,izzy
and he did it and Got away with it. Look he called his
girl friend......he got free.
Always arrive 15 min early and you have gotten there before anyone else.......
My heart goes out to the family of the fallen officer. God bless you folks. The so called "AB's" are one group that will make hell a terrible place to be for those who end up there after this life.
the ag's office often does not enforce criminal non support orders, they do not enforce anit polygamy laws in utah. but this this irks me to no end. how [no swearing please] did this jerk make it all the way up from the univ of utah all the say south to midvale back to the west side belt route onto 21 south and then to the glendale are of salt lake. he made an almost complete loop.
things have got to change our system of justice is falling. our slco da is not fit for the job and the ag's think he is above reproach. DEMAND CHANGE now. or we will have nuts like this guy on the loose on shooting sprees.
speak up, vote and write or call or you have no one else but yourselves to blame.
utah is now the car theft capital of the west.
To bad this freak gets a nice trial.
Oh by the way,sorry for the familys losed
One country, One Language, Now!!
Battle for the true, it out there!
Oh by the way,sorry for the familys losed
One country, One Language, Now!!
Battle for the true, it out there!
Joey
West Valley PD was there
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Now, on to Ink-head Psycho scumbag. Please, just kill him. (Or let me...I'll even use my own gun and do it for free) Or put him in a cell with Mark Hacking and let them enjoy each others psychoses. It's a dirtbag eat dirtbag world. Let them eat dirt. Just don't keep this sorry-arsed[no swearing please]alive on my dime.
Back pain?! And somebody bought that pathetic story?
Remove his freaking spinal cord with vise grips!!
BACK PAIN!? KILL HIM AND HE WILL FEEL NO MORE PAIN!
Pardon me while I spew.
Or the needle what ever applys.
2. Dump his body in the desert.
3. Society is happy, and all the desert critters get a meal.
Well, he had compassion, enough to call his girlfriend(?) to apologize, but lost reasoning for what he did. On top of that, he lost said compassion by killing the older guard that was watching him.
Does this suspect classify as an "animal"? It's really hard to decide what to do with him. He's clearly shown that he's willing to kill for fifteen minutes of "freedom", is he at this point more of a danger to society even when incarcerated?
I believe in elves, dragons, good men and other fairy tale creatures!
AND HE KEEPS GETTING ELECTED OVER AND OVER THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY:
Sheriff Joe Arpaio (In Arizona) who created the " Tent City Jail":
He has jail meals down to 40 cents a serving and charges the inmates for them. He stopped smoking and porno magazines in the jails. Took away their weights. Cut off all but "G" movies.
He started chain gangs so the inmates could do free work on county and city projects. Then He Started Chain Gangs For Women So He Wouldn't Get Sued For Discrimination.He took away cable TV Until he found out there was A Federal Court Order that Required Cable TV For Jails. So He Hooked Up The Cable TV Again Only Let In The Disney Channel And The Weather Channel. When asked why the weather channel He Replied, So They Will Know How Hot It's Gonna Be While They Are Working ON My Chain Gangs.He Cut Off Coffee
Since It Has Zero Nutritional Value.When the inmates complained, he told them, "This Isn't The Ritz/Carlton. If You Don't Like It, Don't Come Back." He bought Newt Gingrich' lecture series on videotape that he pipes into the jails.When asked by a reporter if he had any lecture series by a Democrat, he replied that a democratic lecture series might explain why a lot of the inmates were in his jails in the first place.With Temperatures Being Even Hotter Than Usual In Phoenix (116 Degrees Just Set A New Record), the Associated Press Reports: About 2,000 Inmates Living In A Barbed-Wire-Surrounded Tent Encampment At The Maricopa County Jail Have Been Given Permission To Strip Down To Their Government-Issued Pink Boxer horts.
On Wednesday, hundreds of men wearing boxers were either curled up on their bunk beds or chatted in the tents, which reached 138 Degrees Inside The Week Before.Many Were Also wathed In Wet, Pink Towels As Sweat Collected On Their Chests And Dripped Down To Their PINK SOCKS. "It Feels Like We Are In A Furnace," Said James Zanzot, An Inmate Who Has Lived In The TENTS for 1 year. "It's Inhumane."Joe Arpaio, the tough-guy sheriff who created the tent city and long ago started making his prisoners wear pink, and eat bologna sandwiches, is not one bit sympathetic
He said Wednesday that he told all of the inmates: "It's 120 Degrees In Iraq And Our Soldiers Are Living In Tents Too, And They Have To Wear Full Battle Gear, But They Didn't Commit Any Crimes, So Shut Your Damned Mouths!" Way To Go, Sheriff! Maybe if all prisons were like this one there would be a lot less crime and/or repeat offenders.
Criminals should be punished for their crimes - not live in luxury until it's time for their parole, only to go out and commit another crime so they can get back in to live on taxpayers money and enjoy things taxpayers can't afford to have for themselves.
We are all in the gutter, some of us are looking at the stars.
-Oscar Wilde
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What i want to know is why do they send one officer, who was 60 years old..(i don't mean anything negative about his age and his ability to do his job) to escort an inmate...that has had violence weapons and escape charges, and who's very appearance is nothing more than a statement of just who he could be, given half a chance. Add to that he is 27 years old and probably spends a good portion of his spare time exercising.
What are they thinking at the prison? whoever sent that officer ought to lose his job..and maybe face some criminal charges....it makes no sense